Another Cirrus crash

"Otis Winslow" wrote in message


What is it about these that has them involved in so many
crashes? Are they that difficult to fly? Are there some
gotchas with them?

Rusty pilots?

--
John T
http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer
http://www.pocketgear.com/products_s...veloperid=4415
____________________

"John T" wrote in message
ws.com...
"Otis Winslow" wrote in message


What is it about these that has them involved in so many
crashes? Are they that difficult to fly? Are there some
gotchas with them?

Rusty pilots?

--
John T
http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer
http://www.pocketgear.com/products_s...veloperid=4415
____________________


Slick airframe, glass cockpit with an analog pilot and a goofy side-stick
are a few problems. A good plane for wannabe airline pilots who don't like
to look out the windows. "Stall? It dosen't say on this here tv screen that
I'm in a stall... Whoops, wrong channel..."

Quality control seems to be on par with Lightspeed, meaning they're in the
shop more than a British car. They look good and are very comfortable. But
it's the only airplane I've ever flown that I can say I truly hated and
couldn't wait to be back on the ground.

But
it's the only airplane I've ever flown that I can say I truly hated and
couldn't wait to be back on the ground.

Wow, you're the only person I've ever heard say *THAT* about the Cirrus.

What didn't you like about the way it flew?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

I haven't said it quite as strongly as that, but it was kind of
how I felt after my SR20 experiences. OTOH the SR22 is
a different kettle of fish, at least it has enough power.
The sidestick is honestly no big deal, although the fact that
the electric trim is so fast you can't trim the plane for hands-off
flying (and therefore have to use the autopilot) IS.

I'm baffled by why the loss rate is so high for this airplane.
My wife's theory - which I am too polite to repeat - is that
the plane attracts the wrong kind of pilot. Honestly it's just
about like any other plane to fly, it has its idiosyncracies but
they're no big deal. In any case if they carry on going down
at the present rate they'll soon be uninsurable.

John

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:vighc.35327$yD1.101224@attbi_s54...
But
it's the only airplane I've ever flown that I can say I truly hated and
couldn't wait to be back on the ground.

Wow, you're the only person I've ever heard say *THAT* about the Cirrus.

What didn't you like about the way it flew?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

John Harper wrote:
I'm baffled by why the loss rate is so high for this airplane.
My wife's theory - which I am too polite to repeat - is that
the plane attracts the wrong kind of pilot.

That being the case, imagine when the light jets hit the market.

Hilton

the electric trim is so fast you can't trim the plane for hands-off
flying (and therefore have to use the autopilot) IS.

what's wrong with the manual trim...

BT

BTIZ wrote:

the electric trim is so fast you can't trim the plane for hands-off
flying (and therefore have to use the autopilot) IS.

what's wrong with the manual trim...

What manual trim? You snipped the post, but the earlier poster was
discussing a CIRRUS SR22, so your question doesn't make sense.

Errm.... have you ever sat in a Cirrus (either kind)? There
is ONLY electric trim. No comforting trim wheel down
by your right hand.

fwiw in my plane (182RG) I never use the electric trim,
partly because it doesn't work very well and partly because
I've just never got into the habit. (Funny, because the couple
of times I flew a Mooney Bravo it seemed like second nature
to use the electric trim).

John

"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:yDmhc.18215$432.12208@fed1read01...
the electric trim is so fast you can't trim the plane for hands-off
flying (and therefore have to use the autopilot) IS.

what's wrong with the manual trim...

BT

I don't use the electric trim in my turbo arrow either, its hard to get the
plane trimmed using it because its to easy to over trim.

John Harper wrote:

Errm.... have you ever sat in a Cirrus (either kind)? There
is ONLY electric trim. No comforting trim wheel down
by your right hand.

fwiw in my plane (182RG) I never use the electric trim,
partly because it doesn't work very well and partly because
I've just never got into the habit. (Funny, because the couple
of times I flew a Mooney Bravo it seemed like second nature
to use the electric trim).

John

"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:yDmhc.18215$432.12208@fed1read01...
the electric trim is so fast you can't trim the plane for hands-off
flying (and therefore have to use the autopilot) IS.

what's wrong with the manual trim...

BT

John,

Honestly it's just
about like any other plane to fly, it has its idiosyncracies but
they're no big deal.


Just like the Bo back when it got its doctor killer reputation.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)