What was that airplane?

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 20:07:05 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:

As I said in my blog entry of November 14th, 2003, whenever anybody asks
"what was that airplane", they just saw a Beech Starship:

I know what the Starship and the Piaggio Avanti look like and this
definately wasn't either. Remember, I said the engines were mounted
on pylons. They were not mounted on the rear of the wing. They were
hung out off the rear fuselage and the wing was clean and not swept
back.

It's possible that there was a canard, but I really did not see one.
i'm only assuming that the engines had the props facing the rear
because of the strange noise it made, I did not actually see the props
themselves as the airplane was moving fast and there were trees in the
way of my view.

Corky Scott

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[...] I did not actually see the props
themselves as the airplane was moving fast and there were trees in the
way of my view.

Any chance there were no props, and it was some sort of turbofan that just
happened to sound like it had props? Especially given that it didn't even
sound like a normal prop airplane? Modern, high-bypass turbofans make what
I think is a decidedly non-jet sound.

Given that you didn't see the props, what makes you so certain there were
any?

I can't think of any prop twin with engines mounted on pylons attached to
the rear fuselage, but I can think of lots of jets like that. For sure, I'd
think if there was a prop twin with that configuration, it'd make for easy
identification; surely there aren't *two* types like that.

Pete

On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:31:02 -0700, "Peter Duniho"
wrote:

Any chance there were no props, and it was some sort of turbofan that just
happened to sound like it had props? Especially given that it didn't even
sound like a normal prop airplane? Modern, high-bypass turbofans make what
I think is a decidedly non-jet sound.

Given that you didn't see the props, what makes you so certain there were
any?

I can't think of any prop twin with engines mounted on pylons attached to
the rear fuselage, but I can think of lots of jets like that. For sure, I'd
think if there was a prop twin with that configuration, it'd make for easy
identification; surely there aren't *two* types like that.

It made a rasping/buzzing type of sound, along with what sounded like
prop noise to me. I've heard a few rear engined airplanes and it had
that kind of sound. Since I did not actually see the props due to the
tree obstruction and the relatively high speed at which it was
traveling, I'd have to conceed that it's possible it was not a turbo
prop.

But if it wasn't, it was one of the strangest sounding turbines I've
ever heard, or something was seriously wrong with them.

Corky Scott

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Remember, I said the engines were mounted
on pylons. They were not mounted on the rear of the wing. They were
hung out off the rear fuselage and the wing was clean and not swept
back.


Sounds like a Russian made new to the market amphibian.

Low wing like the lake bucanneer, twin gas engines, pylon mounted.

Was it blue and white.

Is so it was probably the one at sun and fun the past few years.

I saw a couple of shots of it in the aviation binaries group.

I will ask the original photographer to identify themselves and see if
I can't find it for you.

Give it a couple of hours.

In a previous article, Shiver Me Timbers said:
wrote:
Remember, I said the engines were mounted
on pylons. They were not mounted on the rear of the wing. They were
hung out off the rear fuselage and the wing was clean and not swept
back.


Sounds like a Russian made new to the market amphibian.

This one:
http://xcski.com/gallery/osh_seaplanes/143_be103_2
(hit the button a few times for more views)


--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
"Every computer crashes, because every OS sucks"
- Three Dead Trolls In A Baggie, "Every OS Sucks" http://www.deadtroll.com/

This one:
http://xcski.com/gallery/osh_seaplanes/143_be103_2
(hit the button a few times for more views)

Thanks Paul...... That's the one.

Are you the photographer, cause I just asked in the binaries aviation
group if the photographer (or someone else) could post a few shots.

In a previous article, Shiver Me Timbers said:
This one:
http://xcski.com/gallery/osh_seaplanes/143_be103_2
(hit the button a few times for more views)

Thanks Paul...... That's the one.

Are you the photographer, cause I just asked in the binaries aviation
group if the photographer (or someone else) could post a few shots.

Yes, those are my Oshkosh 2003 pictures on that gallery. I borrowed a
Kodak DCSPro14N 14 megapixel camera from work for that trip. Nice camera.

--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
Why is "abbreviation" such a long word?

On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:47:27 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:

This one:
http://xcski.com/gallery/osh_seaplanes/143_be103_2
(hit the button a few times for more views)

That's definately the configuration of the airplane I saw. Didn't see
the blue paint but like I said, it was moving fast and somewhat
blocked by the trees.

Corky Scott

In a previous article, said:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:47:27 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:
This one:
http://xcski.com/gallery/osh_seaplanes/143_be103_2
(hit the button a few times for more views)

That's definately the configuration of the airplane I saw. Didn't see
the blue paint but like I said, it was moving fast and somewhat
blocked by the trees.

There was another one of these at Oshkosh that was plain white (or maybe
bare metal, I don't remember and I never got a good picture of it). The
guy showing it was trying to become a full-time importer of these
aircraft.


--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
It was pity that stayed his hand. "It's a pity I'm out of bullets", he said.
-- RwP

The importer of those is based at Sky Manor airport very near to me. There
is a good diner on the field, and the last time I stopped in there for a
$100 burger two of them were parked there. Interesting plane, but I gather
the useful load is a bit low. Looks like it's built like a tank, though.

--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)

I don't have to like Bush and Cheney to love America

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On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:47:27 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:

This one:
http://xcski.com/gallery/osh_seaplanes/143_be103_2
(hit the button a few times for more views)

That's definately the configuration of the airplane I saw. Didn't see
the blue paint but like I said, it was moving fast and somewhat
blocked by the trees.

Corky Scott