Lancair IV-P lost near Lansing MI

On 2004-06-03 00:59, Darkwing Duck (The Duck, The Myth, The Legend) wrote:

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Lancairs are cool planes, it's too bad this happened. I'm sure your right on
the insurance deal. Not that it matters but I'm surprised Lancair didn't
certify the new 350 and 400 with the parachute like Cirrus just for
insurance purposes.


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I wonder if a parachute will do much good if you are stalled/spinning;
I'm thinking it would only twist itself up, and never deploy fully.


/Rolf

"Rolf Blom" wrote in message
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I wonder if a parachute will do much good if you are stalled/spinning;
I'm thinking it would only twist itself up, and never deploy fully.

Spin chutes are a routine part of flight testing of airplanes in case the
airplane is found to have unrecoverable spin characteristics.

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Richard Kaplan, CFII

www.flyimc.com

On 2004-06-03 14:21, Richard Kaplan wrote:
"Rolf Blom" wrote in message
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I wonder if a parachute will do much good if you are stalled/spinning;
I'm thinking it would only twist itself up, and never deploy fully.


Spin chutes are a routine part of flight testing of airplanes in case the
airplane is found to have unrecoverable spin characteristics.

--------------------
Richard Kaplan, CFII

www.flyimc.com



I stand corrected.

I was thinking of those large parachutes that can carry the whole plane.

/Rolf

"Rolf Blom" wrote in message
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On 2004-06-03 14:21, Richard Kaplan wrote:
"Rolf Blom" wrote in message
...

I wonder if a parachute will do much good if you are stalled/spinning;
I'm thinking it would only twist itself up, and never deploy fully.


Spin chutes are a routine part of flight testing of airplanes in case
the
airplane is found to have unrecoverable spin characteristics.

--------------------
Richard Kaplan, CFII

www.flyimc.com



I stand corrected.

I was thinking of those large parachutes that can carry the whole plane.


Actually, the Cirrus parachute was desiged specifically for deployment
during a spin.

In the Cirrus POH, it states that the only approved way to recover a Cirrus
from a spin is to deploy the parachute.

On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 12:21:55 GMT, "Richard Kaplan"
wrote:

"Rolf Blom" wrote in message
...

I wonder if a parachute will do much good if you are stalled/spinning;
I'm thinking it would only twist itself up, and never deploy fully.

Spin chutes are a routine part of flight testing of airplanes in case the
airplane is found to have unrecoverable spin characteristics.

Spin-recovery chutes are mounted differently than the whole-aircraft
recovery chute...either tail-mounted, or rigged to fire directly aft.

But I expect you could rig a BRS-type chute behind the cabin so that it
slants aft to a considerable extent. Besides, the ultralighters have used
these in response to a number of incidents that have resulted in
uncontrolled flight.

Ron Wanttaja

Rolf: I once opened my parachute in free fall while I was spinning so fast
the ground was a blur. The chute opened with the lines twisted together all
the way to the lower lateral band of the canopy. I almost got sick
unwinding, then overshooting, then unwinding again but the chute did open as
much as it could with the lines wound up and it did unwind coming down.
Stu Fields
"Rolf Blom" wrote in message
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On 2004-06-03 00:59, Darkwing Duck (The Duck, The Myth, The Legend) wrote:

-snip-


Lancairs are cool planes, it's too bad this happened. I'm sure your
right on
the insurance deal. Not that it matters but I'm surprised Lancair didn't
certify the new 350 and 400 with the parachute like Cirrus just for
insurance purposes.


-snip-

I wonder if a parachute will do much good if you are stalled/spinning;
I'm thinking it would only twist itself up, and never deploy fully.


/Rolf

I did that too, from 1200 feet. My lines were so twisted, I could not raise
my head to check my canopy. I kicked and pedaled like the Tour de France!

Then I learned to tuck better when departing the plane


"Kathryn & Stuart Fields" wrote in message
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Rolf: I once opened my parachute in free fall while I was spinning so
fast
the ground was a blur. The chute opened with the lines twisted together
all
the way to the lower lateral band of the canopy. I almost got sick
unwinding, then overshooting, then unwinding again but the chute did open
as
much as it could with the lines wound up and it did unwind coming down.
Stu Fields
"Rolf Blom" wrote in message
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On 2004-06-03 00:59, Darkwing Duck (The Duck, The Myth, The Legend)
wrote:

-snip-


Lancairs are cool planes, it's too bad this happened. I'm sure your
right on
the insurance deal. Not that it matters but I'm surprised Lancair
didn't
certify the new 350 and 400 with the parachute like Cirrus just for
insurance purposes.


-snip-

I wonder if a parachute will do much good if you are stalled/spinning;
I'm thinking it would only twist itself up, and never deploy fully.


/Rolf

On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 08:21:07 -0700, "Kathryn & Stuart Fields"
wrote:

Rolf: I once opened my parachute in free fall while I was spinning so fast
the ground was a blur. The chute opened with the lines twisted together all
the way to the lower lateral band of the canopy. I almost got sick
unwinding, then overshooting, then unwinding again but the chute did open as
much as it could with the lines wound up and it did unwind coming down.
Stu Fields

Stu:

What were you flying? How did the landing turn out? What happened?

BWB