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Another ID change for Smoketown? (37PA, Q08, S37)



 
 
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Old May 16th 04, 06:03 AM
Jeff Saylor
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"G. Burkhart" wrote:

I may be wrong, but don't most 3-letter identifiers offer weather reporting
of some type? There are probably exceptions, but if the identifier contains
numbers, they don't offer weather reporting. I have seen identifiers change
from having numbers to all letters when they got AWOS.


That's usually true. An exception is G. O. Carlson-Chester County Airport,
Pennsylvania. It's had weather reporting for a while now and I've heard of no
plans to change its identifer from 40N.


I suppose if they
lose their weather reporting, they could revert to an identifier with
numbers.

I remember reading online about airport identifiers a while back. Now, if
only I can find it again...


I don't think DRU ever had wx reporting but could be wrong. My guess is that FAA
wants to reserve DRU/ KDRU for someplace else, it's just unusual to see an
airport lose a three letter. Those three letter ID's are probably getting
pretty scarce, especially with all of the weather machines deployed everywhere.



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Old May 16th 04, 06:36 AM
G. Burkhart
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"Jeff Saylor" wrote in message
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That's usually true. An exception is G. O. Carlson-Chester County

Airport,
Pennsylvania. It's had weather reporting for a while now and I've heard

of no
plans to change its identifer from 40N.


I remember reading online about airport identifiers a while back. Now,

if
only I can find it again...



I found the identifier information at
http://www.faa.gov/atpubs/LID/LIDHME.htm and
http://www.faa.gov/atpubs/LID/ch1.htm


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Old May 17th 04, 01:46 AM
Richard Kaplan
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"Jeff Saylor" wrote in message
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That's usually true. An exception is G. O. Carlson-Chester County

Airport,
Pennsylvania. It's had weather reporting for a while now and I've heard

of no
plans to change its identifer from 40N.


The primary motivating factor to change to a 3-letter identifier is when an
airport has a localizer or ILS approach. The FAA has decided they want the
navaid ID to match the airport ID, i.e. in Pennsylvania 2G3 was changed to
KVVS because the localizer is IVVS and the NDB/FAF is VV.

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Old May 20th 04, 03:03 AM
Jeff Saylor
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Richard Kaplan wrote:

"Jeff Saylor" wrote in message
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That's usually true. An exception is G. O. Carlson-Chester County

Airport,
Pennsylvania. It's had weather reporting for a while now and I've heard

of no
plans to change its identifer from 40N.


The primary motivating factor to change to a 3-letter identifier is when an
airport has a localizer or ILS approach. The FAA has decided they want the
navaid ID to match the airport ID, i.e. in Pennsylvania 2G3 was changed to
KVVS because the localizer is IVVS and the NDB/FAF is VV.


40N in Pennsylvania has had an ILS and weather reporting for many years. I've
never heard any plans to give it a three letter; it certainly deserves one based
on the FAA's criteria. Anybody know why this airport doesn't receive a new
identifier?

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Old May 20th 04, 03:20 AM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Jeff Saylor" wrote in message
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40N in Pennsylvania has had an ILS and weather reporting for
many years. I've never heard any plans to give it a three letter;
it certainly deserves one based on the FAA's criteria. Anybody
know why this airport doesn't receive a new identifier?


One does not have to look hard to find deviations from the identifier
criteria. For example, the first and second letters or second and third
letters or third and first letters of a three-letter identifier are not
supposed to be duplicated with less than 200 nautical miles separation. ATW
is Outagamie County Airport in Appleton, WI. MTW is Manitowoc County
Airport, 37 miles ESE of ATW. AUW is Wausau Downtown Airport, 62 miles
northwest of ATW.


 




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