Aero Composites Propellers

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 02:45:01 GMT, John Ammeter
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 01:48:56 GMT,
(Badwater Bill) wrote:


Anybody have any experience with these props? I just bought one
today. After reading their website they look good, but what do you
guys know, if anything?

BWb


I know I'd have asked that question before buying the
prop....

John


Yeah John. I did. I just didn't ask it here because I figured that
no one here would know anything about it. It's too "High End" both
technically and monetarily for the RAHians.

If it were a wooden $250 prop to mount on an ultralight, everyone here
would have an opinion. Since it's a $15,000 prop (model 3300 three
blade) to mount on an IO-550 that also costs another $50,000, I
really didn't think of using RAH as my technical source of data.

For some strange reason, I just felt like fishing here to see if by
chance there was someone...just one person who might have had some
experience with these guys. I should have known better.

I'll shoot a picture of it later today and post it so you can see it.
It's a work of art. I'm going to bring it home and put it in the
middle of my living room floor along with the IO-550 core I just
bought. In fact, John, do you think that wall between my living room
and the garage is load bearing? I may just knock that wall out and
turn the living room and garage into one big airplane building room.

BWB

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 15:11:38 GMT,
(Badwater Bill) wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 02:45:01 GMT, John Ammeter
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 01:48:56 GMT,
(Badwater Bill) wrote:


Anybody have any experience with these props? I just bought one
today. After reading their website they look good, but what do you
guys know, if anything?

BWb


I know I'd have asked that question before buying the
prop....

John


Yeah John. I did. I just didn't ask it here because I figured that
no one here would know anything about it. It's too "High End" both
technically and monetarily for the RAHians.

If it were a wooden $250 prop to mount on an ultralight, everyone here
would have an opinion. Since it's a $15,000 prop (model 3300 three
blade) to mount on an IO-550 that also costs another $50,000, I
really didn't think of using RAH as my technical source of data.

For some strange reason, I just felt like fishing here to see if by
chance there was someone...just one person who might have had some
experience with these guys. I should have known better.

I'll shoot a picture of it later today and post it so you can see it.
It's a work of art. I'm going to bring it home and put it in the
middle of my living room floor along with the IO-550 core I just
bought. In fact, John, do you think that wall between my living room
and the garage is load bearing? I may just knock that wall out and
turn the living room and garage into one big airplane building room.

BWB



No, that isn't a load bearing wall... just holds up the rest
of your house.

Why not just set up a tent in your backyard?

When you first posted about that prop I thought it might
like one I saw several years ago. Actually, all I saw was
the hub and the stubs where the blades used to be. I don't
recall the make but it was an air-adjustable (not CS) prop.
They used wooden blades with metal bands bonded to the wood
prop. The pitch angle could be changed via a small electric
motor and drive mechanism.

The pilot was flying from eastern Washington west to the
Seattle area. He was almost exactly halfway between Stevens
and Snoqualmie Passes above a solid cloud deck when the prop
shed both blades. If I recall the details, he was at about
10,000 feet. He did see one opening below him but only saw
tree tops. There aren't ANY flat areas in the Cascades...

His wife was in the back seat of the RV-4 and getting pretty
panicked by now...

He chose to glide northwest hoping to find an opening in the
clouds and flat ground under him. Gliding down through the
clouds, he spotted the emergency airport near Highway 2 east
of Goldbar. He still didn't know exactly what had happened
to the prop. Coming in for a landing, there was no drag
from the prop and he ran off the far end of the runway but
no real damage to the plane or any injurys.

The stubs of the blades looked like the wood was crumbling,
kind of like "dry rot".

So, anyway, your prop is a completely different design....

John

For some strange reason, I just felt like fishing here to see if by
chance there was someone...just one person who might have had some
experience with these guys. I should have known better.

I would have purchased from Whirlwind in El Cajon, CA at Gillespie Field. I put
a 3 blade on my race modified HIO360-C1D6 This is the same type of Prop Wayne
Handley used on his piston driven Raven. They have been around for 9 or 10
years. I would have also considered Hoffman. BTW mine is on a Glasair 1-RG
located in Ogden, UT. I have had it up to 210 Kts true so far, only been flying
it a few months. Also, I enjoyed your Alien story.

On 11 Jun 2004 17:47:07 GMT, (Fastglasair) wrote:

For some strange reason, I just felt like fishing here to see if by
chance there was someone...just one person who might have had some
experience with these guys. I should have known better.

I would have purchased from Whirlwind in El Cajon, CA at Gillespie Field. I put
a 3 blade on my race modified HIO360-C1D6 This is the same type of Prop Wayne
Handley used on his piston driven Raven. They have been around for 9 or 10
years. I would have also considered Hoffman. BTW mine is on a Glasair 1-RG
located in Ogden, UT. I have had it up to 210 Kts true so far, only been flying
it a few months. Also, I enjoyed your Alien story.


Cool man. Did you build it?

BWB

I would have purchased from Whirlwind in El Cajon, CA at Gillespie Field. I
put
a 3 blade on my race modified HIO360-C1D6 This is the same type of Prop
Wayne
Handley used on his piston driven Raven. They have been around for 9 or 10
years. I would have also considered Hoffman. BTW mine is on a Glasair 1-RG
located in Ogden, UT. I have had it up to 210 Kts true so far, only been
flying
it a few months. Also, I enjoyed your Alien story.


Cool man. Did you build it?

BWB

Yes I did, took 19 years with a 10 year hiatus in the middle due to a new
business ,marriage and 4 kids.

Cool man. Did you build it?

BWB

Yes I did, took 19 years with a 10 year hiatus in the middle due to a new
business ,marriage and 4 kids.

That's a serious commitment...19 years. How do you like it? Does it
have any peculiar characteristics that you didn't expect in flight?
How's the stall? I mean, how does it break? I hear the Lancair VI
breaks like an anvil let go into free fall. How about the Glassair?

BWB

That's a serious commitment...19 years. How do you like it? Does it
have any peculiar characteristics that you didn't expect in flight?
How's the stall? I mean, how does it break? I hear the Lancair VI
breaks like an anvil let go into free fall. How about the Glassair?

BWB
I am very happy with it. At altitude 9.3 gph with about 200 Kts true. Thats
about 25 statute mpg. I have wing root stall strips which helps control stall
behavior. It falls straight and has good characteristics. The Glasair is still
a friendly aircraft when considering the high wing loading. One must keep up
the air speed on final and never chop the power, at least not with a 3 blade
like mine. That prop is a mean speed brake. As everyone says, slowing it down
takes planning and practice. One very nice benefit of this issue is, I don't
know how I could ever forget to put gear down. I can't slow down enough to put
flaps down or land without the gear out first to slow things down.

I would have purchased from Whirlwind in El Cajon, CA at Gillespie Field. I
put
a 3 blade on my race modified HIO360-C1D6 This is the same type of Prop
Wayne
Handley used on his piston driven Raven. They have been around for 9 or 10
years. I would have also considered Hoffman. BTW mine is on a Glasair 1-RG
located in Ogden, UT. I have had it up to 210 Kts true so far, only been
flying
it a few months. Also, I enjoyed your Alien story.


Cool man. Did you build it?

BWB

Yes I did, took 19 years with a 10 year hiatus in the middle due to a new
business ,marriage and 4 kids.



Damn, I am sure glad to hear you tell that. Maybe there is hope for me
finishing my project some day when life quits getting in the way.



Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

Yes I did, took 19 years with a 10 year hiatus in the middle due to a new
business ,marriage and 4 kids.



Damn, I am sure glad to hear you tell that. Maybe there is hope for me
finishing my project some day when life quits getting in the way.



Bob Reed
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Bob,

You will finish.
Of this, I am sure.....
even if you are not at this time.


Barnyard BOb - keeping the faith

Yes I did, took 19 years with a 10 year hiatus in the middle due to a new
business ,marriage and 4 kids.



Damn, I am sure glad to hear you tell that. Maybe there is hope for me
finishing my project some day when life quits getting in the way.



Bob Reed
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Bob,

You will finish.
Of this, I am sure.....
even if you are not at this time.


Barnyard BOb - keeping the faith


I came close to selling it a few months back but couldn't do it. I have never
been one to give up on anything and I am getting too damn old to start now. I
will finish it even if I can't afford to keep and fly it afterward. Thanks for
your support.

Yes, I am keeping the faith...


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)