what would you do?

tony roberts wrote in message news:nospam-7E8DDE.22231620062004@shawnews...

Active runway was 14, lh downwind, circuit height 3000 ft.
We called 5 miles out (procedure) and received a response from another
...
Me - I am approaching threshold of 32 at 3000ft to join downwind left
14. There is no 35 and you should not be descending over the runway.
Response - I am at 5500 descending for 35.

Tony, I can tell your intentions are good, but just FYI

If the goal is improved safety, telling anyone "you should not be
doing X" over the frequency can be counter-productive. It can result
in a response about what you shouldn't be doing, in the opinion of
other pilots (you shouldn't be joining the pattern at the threshold,
you should be joining downwind midfield on a 45 degree angle, sort
of thing). If you allow yourself to get drawn in to responding (no
matter how *right* or correct or justified you are), the result is a
clogged frequency and decreased situational awareness.

I like the advice I received from an 8,000 hr pilot when I went to
pick up my plane. If you're not happy with what's going on in the
pattern or there is confusion, Get Outta There. Come back in 10
minutes.

And my friend said, "I am really embarrassed about this, because I have
been trying to help this pilot (who has a PPL and over 100 hours) but
she is totally clueless.

Is your friend a CFI? Is he based at the same field?

One suggestion for the US, which may have an analogous program in
Canada, is the Aviation Safety Counselor program. If Garner Miller
is lurking here perhaps he'll comment, he was one. Usually they are
CFIs designated by the FAA as ASCs. If someone is involved with the
FAA over a violation, one possible outcome is to send them to an ASC
for remedial training.

The point is, you don't need to involve the FAA, you can contact an
ASC (or your friend can) and ask them to offer to work with this
pilot.
(translate to Canadian analogues)

With nosewheel up way to soon for density altitude she took off, stall
horn wailing as she skimmed the trees and departed for home.

How do you know the stall horn was wailing?

Did either of you politely point out that she'd given your friend's
airplane a mud bath?

Would you report her - or would you forget it?

I'm unclear on exactly what you want to report her for? Not being
from Canada, I don't want to make assumptions about what is or
isn't a violation there?

Best,
Sydney

(Snowbird) wrote
One suggestion for the US, which may have an analogous program in
Canada, is the Aviation Safety Counselor program.

While there are ASC's who are good people and good pilots (and in fact
I know a couple) in my experience they are the exception, not the
rule. The majority of the ones I know are really scary, and about a
quarter of them have wrecked airplanes, usually more than one. I
would not consider an ASC a solution.

Michael