Run-in with Chicago Center

Rosspilot wrote:

(BTW, I do have
weather detection on board--a Strikefinder).

So, what do you avoid using your Strikefinder? Clusters of hits, obviously.
But what about "static"?

I turned away from "static" a couple of days ago. Later (using the NOAA web
site), I noted a cell in that area. Was the "static" a precursor? Just a
coincidence?

I have seen "static" before, and not noted anything coming of it.

- Andrew

On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 02:21:23 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

At my low-ish altitudes, Green Bay couldn't hand me off to Chicago Center
for flight following, so we were soon on our own, watching the emerald-green
Wisconsin landscape unfold beneath us.

It has been my experience flying thru Chicago's airspace that if you
are VFR and want flight following, you are likely not going to get it.
I have flown thru there many times and 9-10 times while VFR they would
drop me. In fact the few times that I have received flight following
thru thier airspace, I have gotten a comment from the controler that
this must be my lucky day, Chicago has agreed to accept you. I have
always wondered if I should land and buy a lottery ticket when this
does happen.

Scott D.

"Scott D." wrote:

In fact the few times that I have received flight following
thru thier airspace, I have gotten a comment from the controler that
this must be my lucky day, Chicago has agreed to accept you. I have
always wondered if I should land and buy a lottery ticket when this
does happen.

No -- you've already used up all your luck for the next month! :-)

George Patterson
If you want to know God's opinion of money, just look at the people
he gives it to.

"Jay Honeck" wrote
The bottom line is painful, but true: Until I own a much more capable
aircraft than Atlas, an IFR ticket would be a nice ego booster, but not much
use.

You know, lots of people are going to try to convince you that's not
true - only it is.

Michael

It's just a no brainer for the type of flying it sounds like you do.
You're
paying for it in avgas taxes whether you use the system or not, use it.

Mary and I use "the System" to the fullest extent allowed for VFR flight.
We fly over 200 hours per year, all VFR, much of it long cross-country
flights, 95% of it with flight-following.

When you fly high enough (say, 4500 feet around here), you are guaranteed
continuous radar coverage and traffic advisories in pretty much any
direction. One controlled airspace seamlessly meshes with another, and the
controllers smoothly hand us off for all of our flights -- just the same as
on an IFR flight plan. The only time this doesn't work is when we fly
beneath their radar coverage. (Or when we simply want to enjoy a short
flight without the bother and interruption of ATC.)

While I would like to have the rating in my pocket for those rare times when
we can't go VFR, it would take months for me to get back up to speed for the
test. (Which, two years ago, before we bought the inn, I was signed off to
take.) With my time at such a premium, and so little added utility realized
for the effort expended, there is little incentive for me to get my
instrument ticket at this time.

But it's in the "5-year plan"! (Along with adding our own restaurant,
remodeling another 17 suites, putting a dome on our pool, etc.-- all of
which I plan to do in my "spare time"...)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Seldom would I disagree so vehemently with TWO of my best buds on the 'net
at
the same time :-)

I hear you, Lee -- and for an Angel Flight you absolutely HAD to go at that
time. An instrument rating was essential.

But I don't ever fly like that. I don't ever "have" to fly somewhere -- I
can drive (if it's close enough) or I can cancel, even if it's for business.
(Yet another reason to own your own business -- what're they gonna do, fire
me? :-)

Actually, the more we discuss this, the more I believe that if I'm going to
sacrifice the time and money, it's going to be for aerobatic training. Now
THAT is something I can sink my teeth into!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

In article %a8Vc.17185$Fg5.15202@attbi_s53, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

I hear you, Lee -- and for an Angel Flight you absolutely HAD to go at
that
time.

You never HAVE to fly an Angel Flight.

--
Bob Noel
Seen on Kerry's campaign airplane: "the real deal"
oh yeah baby.

"Richard Russell" wrote in message
...

You don't have to do either. You just have to maintain radio
communications
while within the Class D airspace.


The problem is determining when you are clear of the controlled
airspace.


Why is that a problem?



I've heard more than a few horror stories about pilots
being clear by more than just a few miles (verified by GPS) and the
tower did not concur.


What is the tower basing that call on?

I found that an altitude of 7500'MSL right around the ring of class B will
get you flight following. Mostly because this is almost the same altitude
all the heavy metal is at near that point and ATC want to keep an eye on you
then.

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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 02:21:23 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

At my low-ish altitudes, Green Bay couldn't hand me off to Chicago Center
for flight following, so we were soon on our own, watching the
emerald-green
Wisconsin landscape unfold beneath us.

It has been my experience flying thru Chicago's airspace that if you
are VFR and want flight following, you are likely not going to get it.
I have flown thru there many times and 9-10 times while VFR they would
drop me. In fact the few times that I have received flight following
thru thier airspace, I have gotten a comment from the controler that
this must be my lucky day, Chicago has agreed to accept you. I have
always wondered if I should land and buy a lottery ticket when this
does happen.

Scott D.

Maule Driver wrote:

Ironically, IFR you will spend more time in the sun rather than
among the
attennaes. Bring your sunglasses.

:-)

I landed at GRR yesterday with a 200 foot ceiling and RVR of 4200 ft.

The new-ish lineman saw my sunglasses and commented on finding better
weather. I told him, "it's bright and sunny about 2000 feet from here."