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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 12:29:09 -0700, "David Brooks"
wrote:

However, now the thread has brought up the emphasis on "enroute to the
departure runway"... does that mean a taxi instruction from the same runway
intersection back to the same parking does *not* imply a clearance to cross
intervening runways? That hadn't occurred to me before, and seems to
compound the confusion.

According to the AIM, it *DOES* imply a clearance to cross all intervening
runways:

"In the absence of holding instructions, a clearance to "taxi to" any
point other than an assigned takeoff runway is a clearance to cross ALL
runways that intersect the taxi route to that point." (emphasis mine).


--ron

According to the AIM, it *DOES* imply a clearance to cross all intervening
runways:

"In the absence of holding instructions, a clearance to "taxi to" any
point other than an assigned takeoff runway is a clearance to cross ALL
runways that intersect the taxi route to that point." (emphasis mine).


--ron


Well...I guess there COULD be the danger of MORE than one way to get from here
to there.....one the controller is thinking that is OKAY given the directions
they have given OTHER pilots....and the one the pilot takes not quite knowing
the big picture or where exactly they are going

take care

Blll

On 24 Aug 2004 00:34:16 GMT, (BllFs6) wrote:

Well...I guess there COULD be the danger of MORE than one way to get from here
to there.....one the controller is thinking that is OKAY given the directions
they have given OTHER pilots....and the one the pilot takes not quite knowing
the big picture or where exactly they are going

At airports where I have been, where that confusion might cause a problem,
I have always received direction from the controller. e.g. 'taxi to GA via
the Inner; Bravo; Golf.


--ron

"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote in message
...
On 24 Aug 2004 00:34:16 GMT, (BllFs6) wrote:

Well...I guess there COULD be the danger of MORE than one way to get from
here
to there.....one the controller is thinking that is OKAY given the
directions
they have given OTHER pilots....and the one the pilot takes not quite
knowing
the big picture or where exactly they are going

At airports where I have been, where that confusion might cause a problem,
I have always received direction from the controller. e.g. 'taxi to GA
via
the Inner; Bravo; Golf.

At one airport I was just told to taxi to a particular runway. I skipped
over a bit from the outer to the inner and continued that way. Ground
called up and asked where I was going. To avoid any embarassment I
asked for progressive taxi and was told "just keep going the way you're
going".

They just didn't expect me to taxi that way.

Paul

"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote in message
...
On 24 Aug 2004 00:34:16 GMT, (BllFs6) wrote:

Well...I guess there COULD be the danger of MORE than one way to get from
here
to there.....one the controller is thinking that is OKAY given the
directions
they have given OTHER pilots....and the one the pilot takes not quite
knowing
the big picture or where exactly they are going

At airports where I have been, where that confusion might cause a problem,
I have always received direction from the controller. e.g. 'taxi to GA
via
the Inner; Bravo; Golf.


--ron

"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 12:29:09 -0700, "David Brooks"
wrote:

However, now the thread has brought up the emphasis on "enroute to the
departure runway"... does that mean a taxi instruction from the same
runway
intersection back to the same parking does *not* imply a clearance to
cross
intervening runways? That hadn't occurred to me before, and seems to
compound the confusion.

According to the AIM, it *DOES* imply a clearance to cross all intervening
runways:

"In the absence of holding instructions, a clearance to "taxi to" any
point other than an assigned takeoff runway is a clearance to cross ALL
runways that intersect the taxi route to that point." (emphasis mine).

Ah, yes. Should have read on to paragraph 6. Back to your regular scheduled
misunderstandings.