In his own words - BWB and the OMABP

wrote in message . ..
My thanks to for the three URL's which cover the
subject on which Bill took me to task.

http://tinyurl.com/2kblp
http://tinyurl.com/3fcuj
http://tinyurl.com/245zz

[snip]

Clearly Bigballs Bill never heard of the Ken Layne maxim, "This is the
internet, we can fact-check your ass!"

Bigballs Bill? He used to be Bill "The Grump" Phillips. To me he is
just Bigmouth Bill. A friggin A-hole and a half. He has no
memmories. He doesn't know or remembers who is on his side. He will
turn on you in a pinch. It is all about BWB and no one else. When
you question him, he will threaten to hunt you down and bite your head
off. He thinks he is an ex-Navy Seal or Green Baret, I can't remember
which. Half of his stories are wishful thinking anyway. He used to
post pictures of himself flying an R22 and a MD500, landing at various
places. He insinuated that he owned them. I used to be really
impressed. I went to Vegas and rented a R22 out of Silver State
Helicopters and reallized it was the same R22 that he flew and landed
on the bank of Lake Meade. I reallized that then that he didn't own
that helo nor the MD500, but I didn't question him. Then there was
the time when he told stories about the Raven (CIA FAC pilots) flying
out of Vietnam and not being able to fly into Cambodia or Laos.
Couldn't fly into Laos? I happened to know for a fact that the Ravens
were based out of Wat Tai Airport in Vientiane Laos. I also pointed
out the fact that more tonnage of US bombs were dropped on Laos than
both WWI and WWII combined. There's a lot of things going on in his
head, he can't get it all straight, most of it is bits and pieces of
what he's read or watched in a movie. Sometimes he thinks he has
lived them, a lot of it is wishful thinking. I used to like him for
who he was. Now I don't like him for who he is. Naw, I think I still
like him. I think its his old age. He's not taking it well, aging
that is. He forgets a lot now. He can't take a joke like he used to
be able to. Us younger ones have to make allowances for our
elderlies. Sometimes older folks get grouchy.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

(Marcus) wrote in message . com...
wrote in message . ..
My thanks to for the three URL's which cover the
subject on which Bill took me to task.

http://tinyurl.com/2kblp
http://tinyurl.com/3fcuj
http://tinyurl.com/245zz

[snip]

Clearly Bigballs Bill never heard of the Ken Layne maxim, "This is the
internet, we can fact-check your ass!"

On 3 Jul 2004 06:37:45 -0700, (bryan chaisone)
wrote:

Bigballs Bill? He used to be Bill "The Grump" Phillips. To me he is
just Bigmouth Bill. A friggin A-hole and a half. He has no
memmories. He doesn't know or remembers who is on his side. He will
turn on you in a pinch. It is all about BWB and no one else. When
you question him, he will threaten to hunt you down and bite your head
off. He thinks he is an ex-Navy Seal or Green Baret, I can't remember
which. Half of his stories are wishful thinking anyway. He used to
post pictures of himself flying an R22 and a MD500, landing at various
places. He insinuated that he owned them. I used to be really
impressed. I went to Vegas and rented a R22 out of Silver State
Helicopters and reallized it was the same R22 that he flew and landed
on the bank of Lake Meade. I reallized that then that he didn't own
that helo nor the MD500, but I didn't question him. Then there was
the time when he told stories about the Raven (CIA FAC pilots) flying
out of Vietnam and not being able to fly into Cambodia or Laos.
Couldn't fly into Laos? I happened to know for a fact that the Ravens
were based out of Wat Tai Airport in Vientiane Laos. I also pointed
out the fact that more tonnage of US bombs were dropped on Laos than
both WWI and WWII combined. There's a lot of things going on in his
head, he can't get it all straight, most of it is bits and pieces of
what he's read or watched in a movie. Sometimes he thinks he has
lived them, a lot of it is wishful thinking. I used to like him for
who he was. Now I don't like him for who he is. Naw, I think I still
like him. I think its his old age. He's not taking it well, aging
that is. He forgets a lot now. He can't take a joke like he used to
be able to. Us younger ones have to make allowances for our
elderlies. Sometimes older folks get grouchy.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

You know Bryan, you just about hit me on the head. I'll give you guys
a clue. Just like any other fiction writer, about 80% of it is truth
and about 20% of it is embellishment. If you keep that in mind,
you'll have a better time. Just because I post pictures of myself
standing next to helicopters and airplanes that I fly, that doesn't
mean I own them. If you look closely at all of my posts, I never said
I owned any of these helicopters. The only helicopter I ever owned
was a Mini-500. The government owned the rest, or Silver State, or
Kevin Morris, Chris Hukill and other buddies.

It's you guys who extrapolate to me owning all this stuff and flying
missions into Cambodia. Hell, I've never even been to the South East.
I'm a story writer Bryan. That's all. I rarely get serious about
anything, especially here on this **** for brains ng.

Why don't you just kick back and enjoy the story for what it's worth?
That's all there is to it.

It's not that I'm getting old and can't remember. It's that I'm bull
****ting you and can't remember!

Sure, I've done some real stuff. I did test fly that RV-6A for the
first 100 hours. And, I did test fly Carl Strom's RV-6 with a
Lycoming in it and crash it in the desert. Kind of interesting out of
all the hours I flew Jess's auto conversion I never crashed, but I
crashed the one with the Lycoming in it.

Anyway, some of the stuff I write is true, most is embellished. If
you keep that in mind, you'll be better off. I won't try to embellish
something that has anything to do with safety however. Safety if
paramount to me. But, as far as the stories about Air America and the
crap like that, DON'T believe a word of it.

I get a kick out of some of you here though. It seems that someone
always picks on me about something I really did do. It's always the
wrong thing they pick. Like the years I spent on the EPA projects. I
never mentioned that in detail until recently. I was waiting for
years for someone to call me on that and guess what? All of that was
true and they got creamed when they finally did call me on it.

So, you just never know, do you. I've done enough of it, that I can
hold my own in this "Bar-Room" kind of bull **** session. Some of it
it extremely factual. But it's like any other profession. If you
have been a real professional at times in your life, you can fill in
the gaps with some intersting bull **** too.

The big problem with the average reader here in RAH is that they have
done almost nothing. They can't fly, they can't build, and they are
too lazy to try.

Anybody like me with a few thousand hours in helicopters, airplanes,
balloons, gliders, gyros, hang gliders, etc. and who has rebuilt
airplanes since high school, can just about walk over any of the self
proclaimed know it alls who really comprise the majority of this ng.
It's not even a challenge.

Look at a guy like Pac. He's in the same position. He really does
have the ratings and the flying time. It's no challenge to him when
some Cessna 150 pilot with 30 hours confronts him over something.

Anyway, just sitting in here and telling the facts all the time is
boring. I'm a story teller in real life. I love a good novel and a
good story. And, I have read a lot, so I can write about SE Asia and
Laos if I chose to. I can write about it well enough to fool even you
who lived there.

But, I'm telling you up front Bryan, I'm a story teller first, a pilot
and a builder second. Don't lose track of that and you won't be
trying to research my posts for the past 10 years like Corky did
trying to trip me up.

BWB

As I have apologized to you in my response to your private email to
me, I apologize to you here publicly. What I said was said in the
heat of passion, I humbly apologize.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

(Badwater Bill) wrote in message .. .
On 3 Jul 2004 06:37:45 -0700, (bryan chaisone)
wrote:

Bigballs Bill? He used to be Bill "The Grump" Phillips. To me he is
just Bigmouth Bill. A friggin A-hole and a half. He has no
memmories. He doesn't know or remembers who is on his side. He will
turn on you in a pinch. It is all about BWB and no one else. When
you question him, he will threaten to hunt you down and bite your head
off. He thinks he is an ex-Navy Seal or Green Baret, I can't remember
which. Half of his stories are wishful thinking anyway. He used to
post pictures of himself flying an R22 and a MD500, landing at various
places. He insinuated that he owned them. I used to be really
impressed. I went to Vegas and rented a R22 out of Silver State
Helicopters and reallized it was the same R22 that he flew and landed
on the bank of Lake Meade. I reallized that then that he didn't own
that helo nor the MD500, but I didn't question him. Then there was
the time when he told stories about the Raven (CIA FAC pilots) flying
out of Vietnam and not being able to fly into Cambodia or Laos.
Couldn't fly into Laos? I happened to know for a fact that the Ravens
were based out of Wat Tai Airport in Vientiane Laos. I also pointed
out the fact that more tonnage of US bombs were dropped on Laos than
both WWI and WWII combined. There's a lot of things going on in his
head, he can't get it all straight, most of it is bits and pieces of
what he's read or watched in a movie. Sometimes he thinks he has
lived them, a lot of it is wishful thinking. I used to like him for
who he was. Now I don't like him for who he is. Naw, I think I still
like him. I think its his old age. He's not taking it well, aging
that is. He forgets a lot now. He can't take a joke like he used to
be able to. Us younger ones have to make allowances for our
elderlies. Sometimes older folks get grouchy.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

You know Bryan, you just about hit me on the head. I'll give you guys
a clue. Just like any other fiction writer, about 80% of it is truth
and about 20% of it is embellishment. If you keep that in mind,
you'll have a better time. Just because I post pictures of myself
standing next to helicopters and airplanes that I fly, that doesn't
mean I own them. If you look closely at all of my posts, I never said
I owned any of these helicopters. The only helicopter I ever owned
was a Mini-500. The government owned the rest, or Silver State, or
Kevin Morris, Chris Hukill and other buddies.

It's you guys who extrapolate to me owning all this stuff and flying
missions into Cambodia. Hell, I've never even been to the South East.
I'm a story writer Bryan. That's all. I rarely get serious about
anything, especially here on this **** for brains ng.

Why don't you just kick back and enjoy the story for what it's worth?
That's all there is to it.

It's not that I'm getting old and can't remember. It's that I'm bull
****ting you and can't remember!

Sure, I've done some real stuff. I did test fly that RV-6A for the
first 100 hours. And, I did test fly Carl Strom's RV-6 with a
Lycoming in it and crash it in the desert. Kind of interesting out of
all the hours I flew Jess's auto conversion I never crashed, but I
crashed the one with the Lycoming in it.

Anyway, some of the stuff I write is true, most is embellished. If
you keep that in mind, you'll be better off. I won't try to embellish
something that has anything to do with safety however. Safety if
paramount to me. But, as far as the stories about Air America and the
crap like that, DON'T believe a word of it.

I get a kick out of some of you here though. It seems that someone
always picks on me about something I really did do. It's always the
wrong thing they pick. Like the years I spent on the EPA projects. I
never mentioned that in detail until recently. I was waiting for
years for someone to call me on that and guess what? All of that was
true and they got creamed when they finally did call me on it.

So, you just never know, do you. I've done enough of it, that I can
hold my own in this "Bar-Room" kind of bull **** session. Some of it
it extremely factual. But it's like any other profession. If you
have been a real professional at times in your life, you can fill in
the gaps with some intersting bull **** too.

The big problem with the average reader here in RAH is that they have
done almost nothing. They can't fly, they can't build, and they are
too lazy to try.

Anybody like me with a few thousand hours in helicopters, airplanes,
balloons, gliders, gyros, hang gliders, etc. and who has rebuilt
airplanes since high school, can just about walk over any of the self
proclaimed know it alls who really comprise the majority of this ng.
It's not even a challenge.

Look at a guy like Pac. He's in the same position. He really does
have the ratings and the flying time. It's no challenge to him when
some Cessna 150 pilot with 30 hours confronts him over something.

Anyway, just sitting in here and telling the facts all the time is
boring. I'm a story teller in real life. I love a good novel and a
good story. And, I have read a lot, so I can write about SE Asia and
Laos if I chose to. I can write about it well enough to fool even you
who lived there.

But, I'm telling you up front Bryan, I'm a story teller first, a pilot
and a builder second. Don't lose track of that and you won't be
trying to research my posts for the past 10 years like Corky did
trying to trip me up.

BWB

On 6 Jul 2004 12:22:48 -0700, (bryan chaisone)
wrote:

As I have apologized to you in my response to your private email to
me, I apologize to you here publicly. What I said was said in the
heat of passion, I humbly apologize.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

Don't you love it Bryan! I mean the HEAT of PASSION! Hell most of
the old ****s here couldn't get their heart rate up of a naked woman
walked by them. At least you are alive my man!

Don't sweat it. I'd have been ****ed off too if you got me confused
with the general moron of RAH. You had a right to be ****ed. You owe
me no apology at all. I screwed up, plain and simple. I just didn't
recognize you as the Bryan I knew. I think that I thought your name
was spelled Brian and that threw me. And, as you so appropriately
said, I'm getting old and feeble minded. Hell, I even have long
periods nowadays when I don't think of sex. That's really getting
old. Yesterday I had 12 minutes when I didn't think about sex at all.

When I get that Lancair Legacy done in a couple years, you are my
first invitation to come out and take a ride at 300 mph!

Just bought my O-550 today. Whaa-Hoooo That baby is gonna go with
the super charger on it at flight level 250! I just hope I don't die
of old age before I finish it and fly it. But, considering that the
thing is a "Lick and Stick" it ought to go fast. I mean after two
weeks at the factory using their jigs, you bring home a glued together
fuselage and the wings are closed. So, you just lick it and stick it
and the body is almost there. No 20,000 rivets. Eat your heart out
Amp Meter and you other RV builders! Ha!

BWB

On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 23:07:41 GMT,
(Badwater Bill) wrote:

On 6 Jul 2004 12:22:48 -0700, (bryan chaisone)
wrote:

As I have apologized to you in my response to your private email to
me, I apologize to you here publicly. What I said was said in the
heat of passion, I humbly apologize.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

Don't you love it Bryan! I mean the HEAT of PASSION! Hell most of
the old ****s here couldn't get their heart rate up of a naked woman
walked by them. At least you are alive my man!

Don't sweat it. I'd have been ****ed off too if you got me confused
with the general moron of RAH. You had a right to be ****ed. You owe
me no apology at all. I screwed up, plain and simple. I just didn't
recognize you as the Bryan I knew. I think that I thought your name
was spelled Brian and that threw me. And, as you so appropriately
said, I'm getting old and feeble minded. Hell, I even have long
periods nowadays when I don't think of sex. That's really getting
old. Yesterday I had 12 minutes when I didn't think about sex at all.

When I get that Lancair Legacy done in a couple years, you are my
first invitation to come out and take a ride at 300 mph!

Just bought my O-550 today. Whaa-Hoooo That baby is gonna go with
the super charger on it at flight level 250! I just hope I don't die
of old age before I finish it and fly it. But, considering that the
thing is a "Lick and Stick" it ought to go fast. I mean after two
weeks at the factory using their jigs, you bring home a glued together
fuselage and the wings are closed. So, you just lick it and stick it
and the body is almost there. No 20,000 rivets. Eat your heart out
Amp Meter and you other RV builders! Ha!

BWB


At least, I KNOW every damned rivet and I KNEW that it
wouldn't fall apart at altitude. Do you have the same
confidence that the composite "glue" will do the same??

How cold is it at altitude? What happens when you get a
lightening strike on that fuselage? With the resistance of
the composite fuselage you'll get a tremendous voltage drop
across it when the lightening strikes. And Power equals
voltage drop times current. How do you think you'll like
dissipating a megawatthour of energy in that small area??

I'll stick to metal airplanes... Lightening hits them and
simply flows through with little or no voltage drop...

John

When I get that Lancair Legacy done in a couple years, you are my
first invitation to come out and take a ride at 300 mph!

Just bought my O-550 today. Whaa-Hoooo That baby is gonna go with
the super charger on it at flight level 250! I just hope I don't die
of old age before I finish it and fly it. But, considering that the
thing is a "Lick and Stick" it ought to go fast. I mean after two
weeks at the factory using their jigs, you bring home a glued together
fuselage and the wings are closed. So, you just lick it and stick it
and the body is almost there. No 20,000 rivets. Eat your heart out
Amp Meter and you other RV builders! Ha!

BWB


At least, I KNOW every damned rivet and I KNEW that it
wouldn't fall apart at altitude. Do you have the same
confidence that the composite "glue" will do the same??


Hell, I don't know about BWB but I would have every bit as much confidence that
the composite will hold together just as well and just as long as your rivets.

How cold is it at altitude? What happens when you get a
lightening strike on that fuselage? With the resistance of
the composite fuselage you'll get a tremendous voltage drop
across it when the lightening strikes. And Power equals
voltage drop times current. How do you think you'll like
dissipating a megawatthour of energy in that small area??

I'll stick to metal airplanes... Lightening hits them and
simply flows through with little or no voltage drop...

John


Wow, in the total scheme of things, how many planes are hit by lightning? If
you are that leary of flying and lightning, I would suggest you stay on the
ground.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

At least, I KNOW every damned rivet and I KNEW that it
wouldn't fall apart at altitude. Do you have the same
confidence that the composite "glue" will do the same??

How cold is it at altitude? What happens when you get a
lightening strike on that fuselage? With the resistance of
the composite fuselage you'll get a tremendous voltage drop
across it when the lightening strikes. And Power equals
voltage drop times current. How do you think you'll like
dissipating a megawatthour of energy in that small area??

I'll stick to metal airplanes... Lightening hits them and
simply flows through with little or no voltage drop...

John


I was in a good mood until I read this. Now I'm suicidal!

All bull**** aside John, you bring up some great concerns as usual. I
have no idea how it will behave under those conditions. I might just
"POP" into another dimension or something. I may hurdle to my death.
All I can say is "What the ****...over!" I've probably lived too long
already...almost like a cat with 9 lives...I've been sooo close, sooo
many times!

I want to tell you all something. If I buy the farm in a Lancair
Legacy that I built, then I want all of you to rejoice at my life and
know that I lived it to the fullest as I came to a screaming halt into
the Earth at Mach 0.7 due to a structural failure. I want you to
post this post if I punch in doing what I love to do...going fast,
taking chances, flying and living life.

I don't have a death wish. But, on the other hand, I have no
intention of hiding my head under my bed when there are 300 mph
airplanes to be built and flown...and finally after 50 years of being
a poor Black Jewish Christian Hebrew ******* child from Boulder City,
I personally have the means to produce such a machine for my own
personal (and Boom Boom's) use.

Best Wishes to all,

BWB

P.S. I will make sure that I put compete EFIS in it so I can roll it
continuously without tumbling any gyroscopes. I just pulled a gyro
today that I trashed from looping the machine I fly.

No more! Not with the Legacy. It will be all EFIS.

On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 00:07:41 +0000, Badwater Bill wrote:

On 6 Jul 2004 12:22:48 -0700, (bryan chaisone) wrote:

As I have apologized to you in my response to your private email to me, I
apologize to you here publicly. What I said was said in the heat of
passion, I humbly apologize.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

Don't you love it Bryan! I mean the HEAT of PASSION! Hell most of the
old ****s here couldn't get their heart rate up of a naked woman walked by
them. At least you are alive my man!

And to top it all off, he had the guts to admit he was getting passionate
about you, BWB. Not many guys would dare to admit that. At least not
here where many folks know what you look like

--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
e-mail: khorton02(_at_)rogers(_dot_)com

(Badwater Bill) wrote in message

Don't you love it Bryan! I mean the HEAT of PASSION! Hell most of
the old ****s here couldn't get their heart rate up of a naked woman
walked by them. At least you are alive my man!

Let's not get the wrong idea about the PASSION part. ;^)

You said, I'm getting old and feeble minded.

Sorry again about that.

Hell, I even have long periods nowadays when I don't think of sex. That's
really getting old. Yesterday I had 12 minutes when I didn't think about
sex at all.

Wow twelve minutes! I'd seek profession help if I went that long
without a thought of that.

When I get that Lancair Legacy done in a couple years, you are my
first invitation to come out and take a ride at 300 mph!

That's a deal. Next time I'm in Vegas I'd like to come by and help
you with it for a minute or two. If that's alright.

Just bought my O-550 today. Whaa-Hoooo That baby is gonna go with
the super charger on it at flight level 250!

Wow, my trike only has has 22hp (claimed), a world of difference from
yours. Well, one of these days... Anyways, it's got a Zenoah G25 and
a laminated wood prop that I bought both new from Tenn-Prop. I also
op'd for an electric starter. You're welcome to fly it when I'm done
with it. Heck, you can be the first test pilot on it. Better you
than me, LOL. I know you'll put it through its paces. If it survives
you, I know I'll be safe in it. BTW I have a chest chute that it on
the hangglider harness. I heard that regular skydiving chutes need to
be repacked every 90 days (or is it within 90 days prior to use). Is
that true for emergency chutes as well? I've had this thing for about
seven years now, still have not been opened (Thank God).

I just hope I don't die of old age before I finish it and fly it. But,
considering that the thing is a "Lick and Stick" it ought to go fast. I
mean after two weeks at the factory using their jigs, you bring home a glued together fuselage and the wings are closed. So, you just lick it and stick it and the body is almost there. No 20,000 rivets. Eat your heart out
Amp Meter and you other RV builders! Ha!

You just might get yours of the ground before my trike. I'm such a
procrastinator.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone