Airport Support Groups - Group Email?

Take a look at http://www.coollist.com . I send out a "newsletter" type
email from time to time, and this works just fine. Just type out your
"email", hit send and everyone in your list gets it. I think that they can
even read it archived online if they wish.

This has potential -- but (I obviously haven't delved deeply into it yet) is
there anything the recipient has to "join" in order to receive the
newsletter? Or is it just essentially automated email?

The main drawback of Yahoo Groups is the requirement to "join" the group
through a rather extensive series of web-based forms. I know a lot of our
old-timers (and some of our young-timers, too!) regard using the internet as
a giant pain in the butt, and I fear they would take one look at it and
throw their hands up in frustration.

These same folks USE email every day -- so while I want MY end to be
web-based, I want THEIR end to come through as email (if they want) OR be
web-based.

I want to make membership in this group as painless as possible -- for the
recipients and for me!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:

The main drawback of Yahoo Groups is the requirement to "join" the group
through a rather extensive series of web-based forms. I know a lot of our
old-timers (and some of our young-timers, too!) regard using the internet
as a giant pain in the butt, and I fear they would take one look at it and
throw their hands up in frustration.

Most mailing list software makes joining far simpler than Yahoo. But there
will be a confirmation process through which your members will have to go.
It should be as easy as replying to a message or "clicking" upon a link in
an email they receive.

Unfortunately, to fail to confirm is to invite a system to be abused. It's
the sad truth of today's Internet.

There is some software which you can run on your own local machine that will
let you run a small broadcast-only list. But many ISPs prohibit this sort
of thing because a spammer could be using it as easily as you. Again: an
unfortunate truth of how things have evolved.

- Andrew

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 01:03:38 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

Take a look at http://www.coollist.com . I send out a "newsletter" type
email from time to time, and this works just fine. Just type out your
"email", hit send and everyone in your list gets it. I think that they can
even read it archived online if they wish.

This has potential -- but (I obviously haven't delved deeply into it yet) is
there anything the recipient has to "join" in order to receive the
newsletter? Or is it just essentially automated email?

this is called "confirmed opt-in"
you don't want to be listed to a hundred lists without your consent,
therefore you receive an automated email. you usually only have to reply
without changing anything and you are done.

The main drawback of Yahoo Groups is the requirement to "join" the group
through a rather extensive series of web-based forms. I know a lot of our
old-timers (and some of our young-timers, too!) regard using the internet as
a giant pain in the butt, and I fear they would take one look at it and
throw their hands up in frustration.


if you run soemthing like mailman you as the operator can unsubscribe and
subscribe through a web interface.

I have a test mailinglist running. you can contact me at martin AT hotze
DOT com and I will give you access to the test list so you can see it and
play with it. then you can ask your hoster if we can install this software
for you.

These same folks USE email every day -- so while I want MY end to be
web-based, I want THEIR end to come through as email (if they want) OR be
web-based.

I want to make membership in this group as painless as possible -- for the
recipients and for me!

I strongly suggest that you invest the money in a new domain solely for
this purpose.

martin

--
The more one is absorbed in fighting Evil,
the less one is tempted to place the Good
in question. (J.P. Sartre)

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 10:08:22 GMT, Martin Hotze wrote:

then you can ask your hoster if we can install this software
^^^^
for you.

this shoud be 'he'. If he can host your site then he can also install this
software for you.

#m

--
The more one is absorbed in fighting Evil,
the less one is tempted to place the Good
in question. (J.P. Sartre)

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:KfN0d.26593$MQ5.22945@attbi_s52...
Take a look at http://www.coollist.com . I send out a "newsletter" type
email from time to time, and this works just fine. Just type out your
"email", hit send and everyone in your list gets it. I think that they
can
even read it archived online if they wish.

This has potential -- but (I obviously haven't delved deeply into it yet)
is
there anything the recipient has to "join" in order to receive the
newsletter? Or is it just essentially automated email?


snip

Jay, if I remember correctly, you do it two different ways.

1) You enter the email addresses that you want to be included in the list. I
think that they are sent a confirmation email and they have to go to a link
to confirm or something. It's simple though, nothing like Yahoo.

2) The user goes to a link, then they enter their email address. I don't
think that there is any confirmation email this way.

You can also set it up as a public or private list.

Best of all, there is no software involved because it's all web based and
it's FREE!

Google also has started groups. It's at
http://groups-beta.google.com/?sourceid=ghpp but don't know anything about
it though. I have a feeling it is very similar though.

Let us know which route you decide to go.


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Let us know which route you decide to go.

I've made the jump to CoolLists. Setting it up was simple, the response
process required from the invited member/subscriber was simple, and it's
free.

It's hard to beat that combination!

Thanks to all who responded.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
The main drawback of Yahoo Groups is the requirement to "join" the group
through a rather extensive series of web-based forms. I know a lot of our
old-timers (and some of our young-timers, too!) regard using the internet as
a giant pain in the butt, and I fear they would take one look at it and
throw their hands up in frustration.

Bzzzzt! Wrong. Yahoo groups can be used, and subscribed to, like a normal
E-mail list, if the user chooses to. There's no need to use the Web
interface at all. Using, for example, the "pipercherokee" group, you can
subscribe to the list by sending a message to:

unsubscribe by sending a message to:

and post messages by sending them to:


There's absolutely no reason to use the web interface. I always use the
web interface, because it's really not that hard, but you don't have to.

--- Jay


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A few other things... Using a yahoo group gives each individual the
choice whether they want to participate using the web interface or the
e-mail interface. Also, the owner/administrator of the group can "bulk
subscribe" a large number of participants. If I remember right, you can
"invite" them, which allows them to opt out, or you can just subscribe
them. If you pick the latter, I believe they limit you to some number a
day. This is in an effort to prevent high volume spammers from using the
service.

--- Jay


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