In his own words - BWB and the OMABP

As I have apologized to you in my response to your private email to
me, I apologize to you here publicly. What I said was said in the
heat of passion, I humbly apologize.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

(Badwater Bill) wrote in message .. .
On 3 Jul 2004 06:37:45 -0700, (bryan chaisone)
wrote:

Bigballs Bill? He used to be Bill "The Grump" Phillips. To me he is
just Bigmouth Bill. A friggin A-hole and a half. He has no
memmories. He doesn't know or remembers who is on his side. He will
turn on you in a pinch. It is all about BWB and no one else. When
you question him, he will threaten to hunt you down and bite your head
off. He thinks he is an ex-Navy Seal or Green Baret, I can't remember
which. Half of his stories are wishful thinking anyway. He used to
post pictures of himself flying an R22 and a MD500, landing at various
places. He insinuated that he owned them. I used to be really
impressed. I went to Vegas and rented a R22 out of Silver State
Helicopters and reallized it was the same R22 that he flew and landed
on the bank of Lake Meade. I reallized that then that he didn't own
that helo nor the MD500, but I didn't question him. Then there was
the time when he told stories about the Raven (CIA FAC pilots) flying
out of Vietnam and not being able to fly into Cambodia or Laos.
Couldn't fly into Laos? I happened to know for a fact that the Ravens
were based out of Wat Tai Airport in Vientiane Laos. I also pointed
out the fact that more tonnage of US bombs were dropped on Laos than
both WWI and WWII combined. There's a lot of things going on in his
head, he can't get it all straight, most of it is bits and pieces of
what he's read or watched in a movie. Sometimes he thinks he has
lived them, a lot of it is wishful thinking. I used to like him for
who he was. Now I don't like him for who he is. Naw, I think I still
like him. I think its his old age. He's not taking it well, aging
that is. He forgets a lot now. He can't take a joke like he used to
be able to. Us younger ones have to make allowances for our
elderlies. Sometimes older folks get grouchy.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

You know Bryan, you just about hit me on the head. I'll give you guys
a clue. Just like any other fiction writer, about 80% of it is truth
and about 20% of it is embellishment. If you keep that in mind,
you'll have a better time. Just because I post pictures of myself
standing next to helicopters and airplanes that I fly, that doesn't
mean I own them. If you look closely at all of my posts, I never said
I owned any of these helicopters. The only helicopter I ever owned
was a Mini-500. The government owned the rest, or Silver State, or
Kevin Morris, Chris Hukill and other buddies.

It's you guys who extrapolate to me owning all this stuff and flying
missions into Cambodia. Hell, I've never even been to the South East.
I'm a story writer Bryan. That's all. I rarely get serious about
anything, especially here on this **** for brains ng.

Why don't you just kick back and enjoy the story for what it's worth?
That's all there is to it.

It's not that I'm getting old and can't remember. It's that I'm bull
****ting you and can't remember!

Sure, I've done some real stuff. I did test fly that RV-6A for the
first 100 hours. And, I did test fly Carl Strom's RV-6 with a
Lycoming in it and crash it in the desert. Kind of interesting out of
all the hours I flew Jess's auto conversion I never crashed, but I
crashed the one with the Lycoming in it.

Anyway, some of the stuff I write is true, most is embellished. If
you keep that in mind, you'll be better off. I won't try to embellish
something that has anything to do with safety however. Safety if
paramount to me. But, as far as the stories about Air America and the
crap like that, DON'T believe a word of it.

I get a kick out of some of you here though. It seems that someone
always picks on me about something I really did do. It's always the
wrong thing they pick. Like the years I spent on the EPA projects. I
never mentioned that in detail until recently. I was waiting for
years for someone to call me on that and guess what? All of that was
true and they got creamed when they finally did call me on it.

So, you just never know, do you. I've done enough of it, that I can
hold my own in this "Bar-Room" kind of bull **** session. Some of it
it extremely factual. But it's like any other profession. If you
have been a real professional at times in your life, you can fill in
the gaps with some intersting bull **** too.

The big problem with the average reader here in RAH is that they have
done almost nothing. They can't fly, they can't build, and they are
too lazy to try.

Anybody like me with a few thousand hours in helicopters, airplanes,
balloons, gliders, gyros, hang gliders, etc. and who has rebuilt
airplanes since high school, can just about walk over any of the self
proclaimed know it alls who really comprise the majority of this ng.
It's not even a challenge.

Look at a guy like Pac. He's in the same position. He really does
have the ratings and the flying time. It's no challenge to him when
some Cessna 150 pilot with 30 hours confronts him over something.

Anyway, just sitting in here and telling the facts all the time is
boring. I'm a story teller in real life. I love a good novel and a
good story. And, I have read a lot, so I can write about SE Asia and
Laos if I chose to. I can write about it well enough to fool even you
who lived there.

But, I'm telling you up front Bryan, I'm a story teller first, a pilot
and a builder second. Don't lose track of that and you won't be
trying to research my posts for the past 10 years like Corky did
trying to trip me up.

BWB

On 6 Jul 2004 12:22:48 -0700, (bryan chaisone)
wrote:

As I have apologized to you in my response to your private email to
me, I apologize to you here publicly. What I said was said in the
heat of passion, I humbly apologize.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

Don't you love it Bryan! I mean the HEAT of PASSION! Hell most of
the old ****s here couldn't get their heart rate up of a naked woman
walked by them. At least you are alive my man!

Don't sweat it. I'd have been ****ed off too if you got me confused
with the general moron of RAH. You had a right to be ****ed. You owe
me no apology at all. I screwed up, plain and simple. I just didn't
recognize you as the Bryan I knew. I think that I thought your name
was spelled Brian and that threw me. And, as you so appropriately
said, I'm getting old and feeble minded. Hell, I even have long
periods nowadays when I don't think of sex. That's really getting
old. Yesterday I had 12 minutes when I didn't think about sex at all.

When I get that Lancair Legacy done in a couple years, you are my
first invitation to come out and take a ride at 300 mph!

Just bought my O-550 today. Whaa-Hoooo That baby is gonna go with
the super charger on it at flight level 250! I just hope I don't die
of old age before I finish it and fly it. But, considering that the
thing is a "Lick and Stick" it ought to go fast. I mean after two
weeks at the factory using their jigs, you bring home a glued together
fuselage and the wings are closed. So, you just lick it and stick it
and the body is almost there. No 20,000 rivets. Eat your heart out
Amp Meter and you other RV builders! Ha!

BWB

On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 23:07:41 GMT,
(Badwater Bill) wrote:

On 6 Jul 2004 12:22:48 -0700, (bryan chaisone)
wrote:

As I have apologized to you in my response to your private email to
me, I apologize to you here publicly. What I said was said in the
heat of passion, I humbly apologize.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

Don't you love it Bryan! I mean the HEAT of PASSION! Hell most of
the old ****s here couldn't get their heart rate up of a naked woman
walked by them. At least you are alive my man!

Don't sweat it. I'd have been ****ed off too if you got me confused
with the general moron of RAH. You had a right to be ****ed. You owe
me no apology at all. I screwed up, plain and simple. I just didn't
recognize you as the Bryan I knew. I think that I thought your name
was spelled Brian and that threw me. And, as you so appropriately
said, I'm getting old and feeble minded. Hell, I even have long
periods nowadays when I don't think of sex. That's really getting
old. Yesterday I had 12 minutes when I didn't think about sex at all.

When I get that Lancair Legacy done in a couple years, you are my
first invitation to come out and take a ride at 300 mph!

Just bought my O-550 today. Whaa-Hoooo That baby is gonna go with
the super charger on it at flight level 250! I just hope I don't die
of old age before I finish it and fly it. But, considering that the
thing is a "Lick and Stick" it ought to go fast. I mean after two
weeks at the factory using their jigs, you bring home a glued together
fuselage and the wings are closed. So, you just lick it and stick it
and the body is almost there. No 20,000 rivets. Eat your heart out
Amp Meter and you other RV builders! Ha!

BWB


At least, I KNOW every damned rivet and I KNEW that it
wouldn't fall apart at altitude. Do you have the same
confidence that the composite "glue" will do the same??

How cold is it at altitude? What happens when you get a
lightening strike on that fuselage? With the resistance of
the composite fuselage you'll get a tremendous voltage drop
across it when the lightening strikes. And Power equals
voltage drop times current. How do you think you'll like
dissipating a megawatthour of energy in that small area??

I'll stick to metal airplanes... Lightening hits them and
simply flows through with little or no voltage drop...

John

When I get that Lancair Legacy done in a couple years, you are my
first invitation to come out and take a ride at 300 mph!

Just bought my O-550 today. Whaa-Hoooo That baby is gonna go with
the super charger on it at flight level 250! I just hope I don't die
of old age before I finish it and fly it. But, considering that the
thing is a "Lick and Stick" it ought to go fast. I mean after two
weeks at the factory using their jigs, you bring home a glued together
fuselage and the wings are closed. So, you just lick it and stick it
and the body is almost there. No 20,000 rivets. Eat your heart out
Amp Meter and you other RV builders! Ha!

BWB


At least, I KNOW every damned rivet and I KNEW that it
wouldn't fall apart at altitude. Do you have the same
confidence that the composite "glue" will do the same??


Hell, I don't know about BWB but I would have every bit as much confidence that
the composite will hold together just as well and just as long as your rivets.

How cold is it at altitude? What happens when you get a
lightening strike on that fuselage? With the resistance of
the composite fuselage you'll get a tremendous voltage drop
across it when the lightening strikes. And Power equals
voltage drop times current. How do you think you'll like
dissipating a megawatthour of energy in that small area??

I'll stick to metal airplanes... Lightening hits them and
simply flows through with little or no voltage drop...

John


Wow, in the total scheme of things, how many planes are hit by lightning? If
you are that leary of flying and lightning, I would suggest you stay on the
ground.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

Wow, in the total scheme of things, how many planes are hit by lightning? If
you are that leary of flying and lightning, I would suggest you stay on the
ground.


Bob Reed

I hate to say this about my close friend John. But, he does stay on
the ground. He hasn't flown in the 8 years I've known him. I wish he
would build another high performance airplane and get us butt up
again. He's a great guy and a hero in my eyes for many reasons. I
just wish he flew more. I know he dreams about it or he wouldn't be
here.

John, get your ass back into the sky buddy. Time is running out. We
are growing old at an exponential rate. Take advantage of the next 10
years because 10 years from now you might not be able to get a medical
or some other sinister thing like that.

I think we here in RAH all ought to have a lynch-mob mentality and get
Amp Meter up in the air again. Let's pick on him collectively!

In fact, John, if you want to come down here, I'll get you on the
insurance of the RV-6 I used to own and you can fly the **** out of
it. I know you are building a house now and don't have time. But in
a year or so when that's done, you are welcome to fly anything I have
access to just so I can get you back up.

Now do it or be square!

BWB

On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 01:58:34 GMT,
(Badwater Bill) wrote:


Wow, in the total scheme of things, how many planes are hit by lightning? If
you are that leary of flying and lightning, I would suggest you stay on the
ground.


Bob Reed

I hate to say this about my close friend John. But, he does stay on
the ground. He hasn't flown in the 8 years I've known him. I wish he
would build another high performance airplane and get us butt up
again. He's a great guy and a hero in my eyes for many reasons. I
just wish he flew more. I know he dreams about it or he wouldn't be
here.

John, get your ass back into the sky buddy. Time is running out. We
are growing old at an exponential rate. Take advantage of the next 10
years because 10 years from now you might not be able to get a medical
or some other sinister thing like that.

I think we here in RAH all ought to have a lynch-mob mentality and get
Amp Meter up in the air again. Let's pick on him collectively!

In fact, John, if you want to come down here, I'll get you on the
insurance of the RV-6 I used to own and you can fly the **** out of
it. I know you are building a house now and don't have time. But in
a year or so when that's done, you are welcome to fly anything I have
access to just so I can get you back up.

Now do it or be square!

BWB


The house we're building already has a 24 x 36 foot shop.
My plan is to build a low and slow high wing stump jumper as
soon as we move in. I loved the feel of the RV-6. It flew
as if it was a part of me. But, now, I want an airplane
that I can land (and take off..) from our family ranch. I
want a plane that I can spot friends homes and the deer that
are ready to "harvest".

I also want an airplane that is able to fly so slow that I
can 'hover' over the nudist camp...

John

I also want an airplane that is able to fly so slow that I
can 'hover' over the nudist camp...

John

That sounds like a Feisler Storch.

Tony

The house we're building already has a 24 x 36 foot shop.
My plan is to build a low and slow high wing stump jumper as
soon as we move in. I loved the feel of the RV-6. It flew
as if it was a part of me. But, now, I want an airplane
that I can land (and take off..) from our family ranch. I
want a plane that I can spot friends homes and the deer that
are ready to "harvest".

I also want an airplane that is able to fly so slow that I
can 'hover' over the nudist camp...

John


This post put a tear in my eye John. I hope you do it.

Bill

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Wow, in the total scheme of things, how many planes are hit by lightni
ng? If
you are that leary of flying and lightning, I would suggest you stay o
n the
ground.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)


Does anybody know of a tube and rag plane getting hit by lightning?
What were the results?

"RobertR237" wrote in message Wow, in the total scheme of things, how
many planes are hit by lightning? If you are that leary of flying and
lightning, I would suggest you stay on the ground.

Turning a propeller near the freezing level is a sure way to get struck. I
took 3 hits in one year (that I know of). For two of them, I wasn't even in
the clouds. I was deviating around CBs. One hit knocked both generators
off-line. They re-set fine, so it only cost $5000 for a gearbox teardown and
inspection. One hit to another crew put a dime sized hole in one prop blade.
They weren't in the clouds and didn't know they had been struck until the
post-flight walk-around. That cost $27k because you can't replace just one
blade.

The aerodynamics of some of the fast glass planes give me a raging hard-on.
However, I can't bring myself to build one because of the lightning issue.
Talking to the kit manufacturers at Sun-n-Fun hasn't brought satisfaction to
my angst (basically, the salesmen don't know squat about the issue).

I wonder how the helicopter manufacturers protect their composite blades
from being damaged by lightning? (Painful image developing)

D.