irrefutable bottom line about picture ID's

G.R. Patterson III wrote:



"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

Homeland security is about making people feel safe. If this makes the
general public feel safe, then its probably worth the cost to them.

What makes you think that *they* will pay the cost? Your next certificate
is going to be an expensive one.

Democracy: where the majority's hand is on the wallet of the minority.

This is why true conservatives (as opposed to "social conservatives" or "big
government conservatives") are so rabid about keeping limits on government.

- Andrew

Newps wrote:



Tom Fleischman wrote:


That's nonsense. Have you done any research at all into what Kerry's
positions are on these things? Have you read his web site? His position
on Iraq is and has always been crystal clear.

I voted for the 87 billion before I voted against it. Yep, crystal clear.

It is if you can get past the first line. But if you stop there, you're
right: it is confusing.

That's Kerry's real problem: he expects more of his audience than Bush.
Bush takes a stand before the evidence is complete, and then ignores any
inconvenient facts that arise. This looks good to those that admire "take
a stand", but can have dramatic consequences down the line if the random
conclusion turns out to have been wrong.

So we waste time, money, and lives on Iraq with N. Korea, Iran, and Al Quada
(along with who knows what else) exploiting our distraction.

Sure, "take a stand" has made the world a safer place. For them.

- Andrew

("Martin Hotze" wrote)

#m

--
Somehow, some way, the Left trash talks "multi-national corporations" and
"big corporations" as if they were messengers of evil, when, in fact,
corporations represent the ultimate, perfect expression of communal
ownership of capital. (Jay Honeck in r.a.p.)


Marty, Marty, Marty,

Someday maybe I'll make your sig line... g

http://www.banned-width.com/shel/works/rstone.html

But the thrill we’ve never known
Is the thrill that’ll getcha
When you get your picture
On the cover of the Rolling Stone.

Montblack :-)

In article ink.net,
Tom Fleischman wrote:

That's nonsense. Have you done any research at all into what Kerry's
positions are on these things? Have you read his web site? His
position
on Iraq is and has always been crystal clear.

you're kidding me.

No, I'm not kidding you.

If you guys would take an hour or so and do a little bit of reading
instead of relying on Faux News for all of your information you might
realize that you are being misled and disinformed.

I never watch Fox news. I realize that fact may confuse
you, but deal with it.


It's all here, clear as day, written in the english language:

http://www.johnkerry.com/index.html

exactly where on that site is waffle's "clear" position on Iraq?

--
Bob Noel
Seen on Kerry's campaign airplane: "the real deal"
oh yeah baby.

On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 11:46:32 GMT, Bob Noel
wrote:

In article ink.net,
Tom Fleischman wrote:

That's nonsense. Have you done any research at all into what Kerry's
positions are on these things? Have you read his web site? His
position
on Iraq is and has always been crystal clear.

you're kidding me.

No, I'm not kidding you.

If you guys would take an hour or so and do a little bit of reading
instead of relying on Faux News for all of your information you might
realize that you are being misled and disinformed.

I never watch Fox news. I realize that fact may confuse
you, but deal with it.


It's all here, clear as day, written in the english language:

http://www.johnkerry.com/index.html

His voting record on firearms legislation is enough for me to vote
against him. He says he supports the second amendment, but a 20 year
voting record shows he's definitely one of the "anti gun" crowd.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

exactly where on that site is waffle's "clear" position on Iraq?

"Tom Fleischman" wrote in message
rthlink.net...
In article et, C
Kingsbury wrote:
Actually, my main problem with Kerry is that I don't believe a thing
that
comes out of his mouth.

Do you believe anything that comes out of Bush's mouth?

It's the old joke - how do you know if a politician is lying?

His lips move.

Paul

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:Jg35d.104426$MQ5.58702@attbi_s52...
Our leaders -- whomever they may be -- MUST be able to discern right from
wrong, and act accordingly.

Problem is with this way is that it then forces this to apply to their side
as well. Only our right is their wrong and vice versa.

Many more people will join up to fight for what is "right" and "good",
to fight, as you put it, "evil".

Paul

"Icebound" wrote in message
t.cable.rogers.com...
The
current voter-apathy is some western societies might be a serious symptom
that a significant segment of the population no longer gives a real damn
about their country.

No, it means they don't give a damn about the political parties. There
may be a rather insignificant difference to the individual concerned from
voting for one part to another. In that case, let those who really feel
strongly one way or the other decide.

In the US the confusion of the current ruling party and the country is
often made on here, and is played upon by supporters of Mr Bush.
It's gone back a long way. Anti-war protesters are often accused of
hating their country.

Paul

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
...

C J Campbell wrote:

I know! We should pass a law requiring all foreign nationals to wear
tinfoil
hats with red streamers at least three feet long. That will fix the
problem.

You can't do that! The hats will block the control signals the FBI sends
out!

I was going to say that it would only get confused by the US citizens
who are already wearing such a device to stop the cosmic rays beamed
down by aliens.

Paul