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Old September 29th 04, 05:21 AM
David Herman
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The proposed NASCAR site is 1/2 mile directly south of the main runway at
AWO, right under final approach. I think it's right where Homer Simpson
would put a big stadium.

There are lots of worried folks up there right now. It's a major center for
ultralight flying, and there are plans to make it a major hub for light
sport aircraft, too. Some are questioning whether that will be possible if
the NASCAR site goes in.

A local group has organized to try and fight the NASCAR proposal, their
website is here in case anyone is interested:
http://www.scar-info.net/

The local airport advisory board (who unfortunately appear to have no real
power) has gone on record in opposition to the proposal, but there is a lot
of momentum behind it.

I'd hate to see it wreck this great airport.


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"David Brooks" wrote in message
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I haven't heard a peep from anyone in aviation about this, but now it
appears the Northwest can't survive without a NASCAR track, and yesterday
the finalist was announced. Marysville, just a hair south of Arlington
(AWO). From the maps
(http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABP...2002045069.jpg), it
sits
right under the straight-in for 34. It has the nearest IAPs to Everett,
making it a popular location for checkrides (it seems like you're still in
the PAE pattern when you get vectored to the intercept).

Yes, the EAA Arlington. What fun it will be when the EAA and NASCAR choose
the same weekend.

OK, so if you're thinking about the stadium TFR, they talk about there
being
only three meets per year. But once this big facility is built, the owners
will probably find other ways to use it. The LOC 34 MDA is 469 feet above
TDZE - would anyone like to hazard a guess about what it would be when the
TERPSters are done with it?

Does anyone else have experience with a NASCAR track snuggled close to
their
favorite non-towered airport?

-- David Brooks




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Old September 29th 04, 05:40 AM
Jay Beckman
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"john smith" wrote in message
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I don't know about other sites, but Talledega puts up a temporary tower
on race day, so I am guessing a temporary Class D airspace goes along
with it.


Probably not. Controlled airspace just isn't established for these
short-term events. Fond du Lac gets a temporary tower each year during
the EAA convention, but there are no airspace changes. Sheboygan got a
temporary tower for the PGA tournament but there were no airspace changes.


Phoenix Regional (A39) is getting a temporary tower for the Copperstate Fly
In next weekend and they have published arrival and departure
procedures...but I don't believe that the airspace will change designations.
I'll have to dig into it further.

Anyone here coming to Copperstate?

Jay Beckman
Student Pilot - KCHD


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Old September 29th 04, 05:50 AM
Ken Reed
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Phoenix Regional (A39) is getting a temporary tower for the Copperstate Fly
In next weekend and they have published arrival and departure
procedures...but I don't believe that the airspace will change designations.
I'll have to dig into it further.

Anyone here coming to Copperstate?


I'll be there one day, either Saturday or Sunday.
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KR
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Old September 29th 04, 06:36 AM
C J Campbell
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Personally, I think the Arlington pilots' concern is way overblown. Even on
those days in which the event draws more than 30,000 and there is a TFR, you
are allowed to fly through the TFR for the purpose of arriving or departing
at the airport.

Most of the resistance seems to be coming from the Blackjack Squadron the
a bunch of squirrels who regard the airport as their personal property and
who resent the idea of there being any rules for flying at all. These are
the guys who practice aerobatics on short final. I know several people who
have had to take evasive action to avoid being hit by these idiots. Tough
luck if a NASCAR track makes them clean up their act.

I think the track will be beneficial for the airport.


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Old September 29th 04, 05:17 PM
Andrew Gideon
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Richard Hertz wrote:


I never did understand the attraction of driving (much less WATCHING) cars
around an oval.


Ah, but if it were a figure-8, it would be as interesting as aviation crash
videos.

- Andrew

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Old September 30th 04, 03:43 AM
Capt.Doug
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"Jay Beckman" wrote in message Now add another 100
or more for each of the 43 teams (including guests of each team),


Depends on the team- I'm hauling a truck team these days in a 14 seater.

As far as "other" events go, don't you have to have 30,000+ people to draw

a
TFR?


Open air events require 3000 to invect a TFR.

D.


 




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