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Old November 6th 04, 10:51 PM
Greg Butler
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"Stealth Pilot" wrote in message
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follow appropriate radio procedure and stop being a weenie. :-)

ask yourself what the licence achieves.
hint, it gets people to play together in the same sandpit without
being a nuisance to each other.
the requirement is to play together by using appropriate radio
procedure.
if it is an issue for the FCC let them tell you about it.

....btw I'm claiming pacific ocean immunity on this :-)
Stealth Pilot
Australia


I don't think you need immunity since you are not required by the FCC to
have a license anyway.


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Old November 7th 04, 12:48 AM
vincent p. norris
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I have yet to have the folks in Canada ask for the Radio License.

I just returned to the US from a two-week flying tour of the Canadian
Maritimes. Neither I nor the pilots of the other two a/c were asked
for a radio license, or anything else, for that matter.

I was asked for my pilot's license when reentering the US at Bangor,
Maine.

vince norris
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Old November 7th 04, 01:38 AM
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"Brien K. Meehan" wrote in message
ups.com...
Larry, if you tell us your address, we'll all pitch in and send you a
few bucks so you can go buy yourself a sense of humor.



I don't think he would have a clue as to where to buy one.


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Old November 7th 04, 02:11 AM
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"Brien K. Meehan" wrote in message
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Larry, if you tell us your address, we'll all pitch in and send you a
few bucks so you can go buy yourself a sense of humor.


Perhaps he could trade his dictionary in for one...

Sorry, couldn't resist.


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Old November 7th 04, 02:34 AM
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No, and no.

PJ

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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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Okay, the Cub I rent has no radio, hence no radio license. I am
vaguely aware, each time I use the handheld, that I am operating
without a station license.

Is this a problem? Should I apply to the FCC for a license, and if so,
what sort of license do I want?

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Old November 7th 04, 02:48 AM
tony roberts
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There's only one "R" in AROW nowadays, you know. The missing one if for the redidio license.

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Jim Fisher


So If I read this correctly I don't actually need a redidio licence?
Do I even need a redidio?

Sorry - couldn't resist

Tony

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Old November 7th 04, 03:12 AM
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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Okay, the Cub I rent has no radio, hence no radio license. I am
vaguely aware, each time I use the handheld, that I am operating
without a station license.

Is this a problem? Should I apply to the FCC for a license, and if so,
what sort of license do I want?



Based on FCC rules 87.18 (b) and 87.89 (d) 4.

(
http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2...47cfr87.18.pdf

http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2...47cfr87.89.pdf )

you are illegal only if you operate the station outside the USA.

As many have pointed out, Canada rarely, if ever, asks to see the licenses.
In any case, since pretty much all equipment in use is to FCC standards
anyway, I doubt that they will care much about equipment, unless it was
somehow faulty. You would probably be called on the lack of a Station
license only if they decided they had to inspect you because you were
splattering over adjacent frequencies or something like that, and even then
I am betting you would only be in trouble if the equipment was
non-FCC-compliant.... modified, or homebrew, or something like that....

Canada still does, however, require the radio Operator's license for its own
pilots.... so I am betting that you would be called on the lack of an
Operator's license (rule 87.89) before you would be called on the Station
license. Again, they probably won't care to check your Operator's license
unless you display improper technique....








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Old November 7th 04, 03:19 AM
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(This from the pilot of a 1945 Aeronca Champ...)
No, of course not! It's just something else inside the airplane to
distract you from looking outside and enjoying the flight.

tony roberts wrote:
So If I read this correctly I don't actually need a redidio licence?
Do I even need a redidio?
Sorry - couldn't resist
Tony


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Old November 7th 04, 03:37 AM
Kevin
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john smith wrote in message ...
Correct. You only need one if you are going outside the USA.
I have yet to have the folks in Canada ask for the Radio License.


You may not have been asked, but we (Canadian pilots operating in
Canada) are required to have the radio operators license on our
person, just like the pilot's license and medical certificate.
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Old November 7th 04, 03:53 AM
Dave Stadt
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"Icebound" wrote in message
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
...

Okay, the Cub I rent has no radio, hence no radio license. I am
vaguely aware, each time I use the handheld, that I am operating
without a station license.

Is this a problem? Should I apply to the FCC for a license, and if so,
what sort of license do I want?



Based on FCC rules 87.18 (b) and 87.89 (d) 4.

(

http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2...47cfr87.18.pdf


http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2...47cfr87.89.pdf )

you are illegal only if you operate the station outside the USA.


Ah yes, the FAA requires us to have a station license if we are in Canada
where the FAA has no authority. Another fine example of our government in
action.

As many have pointed out, Canada rarely, if ever, asks to see the

licenses.
In any case, since pretty much all equipment in use is to FCC standards
anyway, I doubt that they will care much about equipment, unless it was
somehow faulty. You would probably be called on the lack of a Station
license only if they decided they had to inspect you because you were
splattering over adjacent frequencies or something like that, and even

then
I am betting you would only be in trouble if the equipment was
non-FCC-compliant.... modified, or homebrew, or something like that....

Canada still does, however, require the radio Operator's license for its

own
pilots.... so I am betting that you would be called on the lack of an
Operator's license (rule 87.89) before you would be called on the Station
license. Again, they probably won't care to check your Operator's license
unless you display improper technique....


What do Canadian regulations say regarding station and operator licenses if
a US citizen brings a private plane into Canada?


 




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