Speed mods for Cherokee180

If I put all the speed mods on my 180 how much faster will it really go.

Our Cherokee 235 has 'em all.

Best bang for your buck? The full-boot wheel pants. You'll net 5 - 7 knots
from them.

Knots-2-U and Lopresti both make versions of these wheel pants.
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Iowa City, IA
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www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
If I put all the speed mods on my 180 how much faster will it really go.

Our Cherokee 235 has 'em all.
Best bang for your buck? The full-boot wheel pants. You'll net 5 - 7 knots
from them.
Knots-2-U and Lopresti both make versions of these wheel pants.

That's also the approximate gain you'll get from aileron/flap gap seals,
and I think the gap seal kits from Knot2U, etc are still cheaper than the
wheel pants kits.

Incidentally, the mods are definitely NOT $1000 per knot. Maybe more like
$250-300 per knot.

--- Jay


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Jay Masino wrote:
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That's also the approximate gain you'll get from aileron/flap gap seals,
and I think the gap seal kits from Knot2U, etc are still cheaper than the
wheel pants kits.


No way you get 5-7 knots from flap and aileron gap seals. 1-3 maybe.

Newps wrote:
Jay Masino wrote:
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That's also the approximate gain you'll get from aileron/flap gap
seals, and I think the gap seal kits from Knot2U, etc are still
cheaper than the wheel pants kits.


No way you get 5-7 knots from flap and aileron gap seals. 1-3 maybe.



Agreed. Any company that quotes 5-7 for gap seals is trying to create a gap
in your wallet.

Newps wrote:
No way you get 5-7 knots from flap and aileron gap seals. 1-3 maybe.

I did (approximately). It's been a while, so I don't remember the exact
number, but my cruise speed went up by a definite, measurable amount when
I installed the Knots2U kit. I'm sure it was atleat 5 knots. At the
time, the Knots2U kit was only something like $800.

--- Jay


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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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If I put all the speed mods on my 180 how much faster will it really go.

Our Cherokee 235 has 'em all.

Best bang for your buck? The full-boot wheel pants. You'll net 5 - 7
knots
from them.

Knots-2-U and Lopresti both make versions of these wheel pants.
--
Jay Honeck

So your wheel pants cost 5 thousand dollars? WoW! g
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So your wheel pants cost 5 thousand dollars? WoW! g

Heh. I don't know what they cost originally, but I just paid a thousand
bucks to have them completely re-done. (The fiberglass was in bad shape,
as was most of the connecting hardware...)

I'd have left them off, but we literally dropped 5 - 7 knots without them.
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Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 04:43:54 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in eAfmd.36275$V41.3702@attbi_s52::

I'd have left them off, but we literally dropped 5 - 7 knots without them.

IIRC, the Piper POH uses a figure of 8 knots speed reduction if
(factory equipped) wheel pants are removed.

Larry Dighera wrote in message . ..
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 04:43:54 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in eAfmd.36275$V41.3702@attbi_s52::

I'd have left them off, but we literally dropped 5 - 7 knots without them.

IIRC, the Piper POH uses a figure of 8 knots speed reduction if
(factory equipped) wheel pants are removed.

That's for the full-coverage wheel pants found on later model
Archers and Warriors (which Jay's modified pants emulate). The early
wheel pants covered only the somewhat aerodynamic part of the gear
(round wheel) and left all of the pointy bits hanging out in the
breeze. Those are good for 1 or 2 knots on a good day.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)