Buzzing

Todd Pattist wrote:
Bob Gardner wrote:

At the hearing to revoke the pilot's certificates, it would
be referred to as "unwarranted low flying."

Or a "violation of FAR 91.119 " :-)

Not in this Realm of England - but I'm sure our CAA can come up
with their own code number ...

Mark,

I must say that of all your responses I usually agree with and/or find
educational, this is not one of them.

Perhaps I'm wrong and this was simply an attempt at humor.

PJ

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Here's to the duck who swam a lake and never lost a feather,
May sometime another year, we all be back together.
JJW
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"Mark Kolber" wrote in message
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On 19 Nov 2004 02:17:41 -0800, (Ramapriya) wrote:

What's buzzing? I've heard it's some kind of a feel-good maneuver..


Buzzing is a maneuver where, in an effort to impress oneself or one's
friends, an idiot pilot crashes into a house.


Mark Kolber
APA/Denver, Colorado
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message ...
Ramapriya wrote:

What's buzzing? I've heard it's some kind of a feel-good maneuver..

Flying very low at relatively high speed. For a typical "buzz job", you would
dive at the object you wanted to buzz, level off a few feet above the highest
point there, fly over it, and climb rapidly. It's a dangerous maneuver due to
the risk of getting too low and hitting something and the risk that you might
get distracted during the climb out, let the speed bleed off too far, and stall.
Only two types of pilots do buzz jobs; 1) professionals who are practicing or
getting paid to do low level aerobatics, and 2) fools.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.


The genesis of this Q was the experience related by a member of the
crew of Steely Dan (my fav band, incidentally) about a charter plane
pilot buzzing with the band members inside. He recollects it being
thrilling and a wee unnerving too.

I did a Teoma search on the term before actually asking you guys, so I
wasn't trolling at all, like Schmoe suspected

George Patterson's answer comes very close to the description of the
actual experience itself, which sounded like it was a maneuver
involving a sudden nosedive with no prior thrust decrease and leveling
off mightily close to the ground and pulling back up again.

But this is quite different from what others have written, which is
more like what some overenthusiastic young Indian Air Force pilots
have been known to do close to female hostels in cities across India -
fly real low and shatter the peace :\

Ramapriya

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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On 19 Nov 2004 02:17:41 -0800, (Ramapriya) wrote:

What's buzzing? I've heard it's some kind of a feel-good maneuver..

I was at a cocktail party / family reunion (not my family!) where the
old guy reminisced about the hostess's uncle who knocked a brick off
the chimney of the family house, buzzing it with a P-51 in 1945 or
thereabouts.

*That's* buzzing!

NAH! Buzzing is taking a P51 up a country road at 8AM on a Sunday
morning at 60 inches and 3000RPM so low that the prop tips are almost
leaving a swath through the pine tree tops, then overflying a church and
cemetery at 50 feet; then pulling it off the deck into a climbing slow
roll, disappearing in a hurry before some sharp eyed character down
there had time to get the numbers.
Then after you've managed to scare the hell out of half of the
congregation at the Haywood Baptist Church in Haywood Virginia that
Sunday morning, Reader's Digest comes along and gets another 23 million
people in 17 languages, Braille, and large print, to sit on their butts
on their toilets all over the world (that's where everybody keeps
Reader's Digest I think) and read all about it without you getting
arrested.
Now THAT'S buzzing!!! :-)
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
for email; take out the trash

"PJ Hunt" wrote in message
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I must say that of all your responses I usually agree with and/or find
educational, this is not one of them.

Why don't you agree with his response? Sure seemed on the mark to me.

Perhaps I'm wrong and this was simply an attempt at humor.

There was certainly at least a touch of tongue-in-cheek to his response, but
the very truth of his response is what makes it humorous (as is usually the
case with jokes...a joke with absolutely no truth to it isn't funny at all).

Pete

Hey Peter,

Although I don't condone it, I also don't agree that a properly performed
'buzz job' must end with a crash into a house, or even that it is
necessarily only performed by idiot pilots.

A few of the best pilots I've ever known have done plenty of these stunts
and more and have thousands more hours of both Mark and I combined, and they
are by no means idiots.

Just my own personal observations.

PJ

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Here's to the duck who swam a lake and never lost a feather,
May sometime another year, we all be back together.
JJW
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"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"PJ Hunt" wrote in message
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I must say that of all your responses I usually agree with and/or find
educational, this is not one of them.

Why don't you agree with his response? Sure seemed on the mark to me.

Perhaps I'm wrong and this was simply an attempt at humor.

There was certainly at least a touch of tongue-in-cheek to his response,
but
the very truth of his response is what makes it humorous (as is usually
the
case with jokes...a joke with absolutely no truth to it isn't funny at
all).

Pete

"G.R. Patterson III" grpphoto@ wrote

Flying very low at relatively high speed.

So Super Cubs and the likes are exempt from 'buzzing' due to lack of high
speed.

For a typical "buzz job", you would dive at the object you wanted to buzz,
level off a few feet above the highest point there, fly over it, and climb
rapidly.

So if I'm just flying along level, with out diving, and fly over your head
by just a few feet, and continue on without climbing, that is not buzzing?

I would have thought it was. Just food for thought.

PJ

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:41:54 -0800, "gatt"
wrote:

the chimney of the family house, buzzing it with a P-51 in 1945 or
thereabouts.

Hey, I've got a chimney I'm not using...send him this way, wouldja? :

I suspect the aircraft has long since bit the dust, as has the pilot.

(On second thoughts, I believe the plane was a P-47.)

all the best -- Dan Ford
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:41:54 -0800, "gatt"
wrote:

the chimney of the family house, buzzing it with a P-51 in 1945 or
thereabouts.

Hey, I've got a chimney I'm not using...send him this way, wouldja?
:

I suspect the aircraft has long since bit the dust, as has the pilot.

(On second thoughts, I believe the plane was a P-47.)

If it was a Jug , it would have taken out more than a brick :-)

Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
for email; take out the trash

Treetops?!?! Come on, Dudley, you gotta get LOW to consider it buzzing!
:-)

Shawn


"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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On 19 Nov 2004 02:17:41 -0800, (Ramapriya) wrote:

What's buzzing? I've heard it's some kind of a feel-good maneuver..

I was at a cocktail party / family reunion (not my family!) where the
old guy reminisced about the hostess's uncle who knocked a brick off
the chimney of the family house, buzzing it with a P-51 in 1945 or
thereabouts.

*That's* buzzing!

NAH! Buzzing is taking a P51 up a country road at 8AM on a Sunday morning
at 60 inches and 3000RPM so low that the prop tips are almost leaving a
swath through the pine tree tops, then overflying a church and cemetery at
50 feet; then pulling it off the deck into a climbing slow roll,
disappearing in a hurry before some sharp eyed character down there had
time to get the numbers.
Then after you've managed to scare the hell out of half of the
congregation at the Haywood Baptist Church in Haywood Virginia that Sunday
morning, Reader's Digest comes along and gets another 23 million people in
17 languages, Braille, and large print, to sit on their butts on their
toilets all over the world (that's where everybody keeps Reader's Digest I
think) and read all about it without you getting arrested.
Now THAT'S buzzing!!! :-)
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
for email; take out the trash