unfair cartoon in October 2004 issue of KITPLANES

In article , Corky Scott writes:
I guess you could say: at least he called. That's true, but he should
not have even been considering firing it in such close proximaty to
the airport.

The regs are quite clear on where we can and can not fly. For the
traditional model rocket under 1 pound, we are totally exempt from FAA
regulation. Still we must fly in a manner that does not endanger aircraft.

For what is now known as a "large model rocket" (between 1 and 3.3#) we need
to NOTIFY the local airport manager of our activity. That may be what you
encountered.

Beyond 3.3# we fill out the same waiver form as used for an airshow, 45 days
in advance, etc. etc. and the FAA has the final say as to whether our
request is granted or not.

We've actually flown off assorted airports, both general aviation and
military. The first time I was involved in running one of these launches we
were just under 20 miles outside of ORD, one of the busiest hunks of
airspace in the country. They let us fly up to but not into the TCA, and
actually rerouted traffic into 9 right around us.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD"
To reply, remove the TRABoD!
Kaplow Klips & Baffle: http://nira-rocketry.org/LeadingEdge/Phantom4000.pdf
www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/ www.nira-rocketry.org www.nar.org

Save Model Rocketry from the HSA! http://www.space-rockets.com/congress.html

I don't fly them anymore, but I had a great time as a kid with my model
rockets. My favorite was my Estes Avenger 2 stage. I built one of the
original Estes Saturn V's that used 3 C engines. Went to a high power
rocketry meet a couple years ago. Lots of fun. Launch had to be
postponed at one point for a "lookie-lou" in a 172 who saw all the folks
in the middle of the turf farm and decided to come check it out. The
meet was NOTAM'ed by the way.

Once when doing glider acro, I had just leveled out at the bottom of a
loop at around 2500 agl (my acro floor). My passenger asked what that
thing was just off our right wing. It was a model rocket descending on
it's 'chute. My response was "Hey, they're shooting at us!"



In article ,
oD (Bob Kaplow) wrote:

In article , Corky Scott
writes:
I guess you could say: at least he called. That's true, but he should
not have even been considering firing it in such close proximaty to
the airport.

The regs are quite clear on where we can and can not fly. For the
traditional model rocket under 1 pound, we are totally exempt from FAA
regulation. Still we must fly in a manner that does not endanger aircraft.

For what is now known as a "large model rocket" (between 1 and 3.3#) we need
to NOTIFY the local airport manager of our activity. That may be what you
encountered.

Beyond 3.3# we fill out the same waiver form as used for an airshow, 45 days
in advance, etc. etc. and the FAA has the final say as to whether our
request is granted or not.

We've actually flown off assorted airports, both general aviation and
military. The first time I was involved in running one of these launches we
were just under 20 miles outside of ORD, one of the busiest hunks of
airspace in the country. They let us fly up to but not into the TCA, and
actually rerouted traffic into 9 right around us.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD"
To reply, remove the TRABoD!
Kaplow Klips & Baffle: http://nira-rocketry.org/LeadingEdge/Phantom4000.pdf
www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/ www.nira-rocketry.org www.nar.org

Save Model Rocketry from the HSA!
http://www.space-rockets.com/congress.html

--
Take out the airplane for reply

From: Wallace Berry
Date: 8/26/2004 1:38 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

I don't fly them anymore, but I had a great time as a kid with my model
rockets. My favorite was my Estes Avenger 2 stage. I built one of the
original Estes Saturn V's that used 3 C engines.

I had the Estes Saturn 1-C which cost 7 or 8 dollars less than the Saturn V. I
alway wanted the Saturn V but at $36 it was more than I could afford at the
time.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

In article , (B2431) writes:
I had the Estes Saturn 1-C which cost 7 or 8 dollars less than the Saturn V. I
alway wanted the Saturn V but at $36 it was more than I could afford at the
time.

That would be Saturn-IB, not C. And the S-IB was MORE expensive than the
S-V, since it was a larger scale. The 1:100 S-V was 9.95 when it first came
out, the 1:70 S-IB 12.95. The 1/242 semi-scale S-V was $2.50 but a common
"free kit" with your mail order.

The 1:100 S-V has been re-released a couple times over the past decade. Last
list was around $80 +/- some change. If you want bigger, better, and of
course more expensive, Apogee (apogeerockets.com) has 1:70 S-IB and S-V. And
for less bux Saturn Press (http://members.aol.com/Satrnpress/saturn.htm) has
a 2" Saturn-V that just came out for $50 featuring nice parts laser cut by
"robots with ray guns" for $50, and Dr. Zooch rockets (klydemorris.com)
offer 4 different Saturn kits for $19.95 each.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD"
To reply, remove the TRABoD!
Kaplow Klips & Baffle: http://nira-rocketry.org/LeadingEdge/Phantom4000.pdf
www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/ www.nira-rocketry.org www.nar.org

Save Model Rocketry from the HSA! http://www.space-rockets.com/congress.html

(Bob Kaplow)
Date: 8/27/2004 1:13 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(B2431) writes:
I had the Estes Saturn 1-C which cost 7 or 8 dollars less than the Saturn
V. I
alway wanted the Saturn V but at $36 it was more than I could afford at the
time.

That would be Saturn-IB, not C. And the S-IB was MORE expensive than the
S-V, since it was a larger scale. The 1:100 S-V was 9.95 when it first came
out, the 1:70 S-IB 12.95. The 1/242 semi-scale S-V was $2.50 but a common
"free kit" with your mail order.

We are discussing different kits, I think, since I recall the Saturn V at
$36ish in 1969 or 1970 and theSaturn 1B was cheaper. The Saturn V was on the
order of 3 feet tall and the Saturn 1-B I built was about 2 feet.

I remember last fall I found a site where one could spend almost $800 for a 7
foot (?) Saturn 1-B.

I stand corrected on the designation, thank you.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired