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In article puyXc.97922$TI1.33401@attbi_s52,
Jay Honeck wrote: starts at $25k, needs fabric work, good winter project! If it "starts at $25k" -- that's a "reserve"... In 'real-life' auctions, as well as eBay ones, there is a significant difference, between 'starts at', and 'reserve'. In real-life auctions, if there are no offers at the 'starting bid' price, the auctioneer will lower the requested bid-point until somebody bites. Unfortunately, this _doesn't_ happen in the artificial eBay environment. A 'reserve' price can exist for either type of auction. It is _usually_ an *undisclosed* (to the bidders) _price_ (although the _existence of the 'reserve price' must be disclosed) below which the seller elects not to sell the item. Prospective buyers must take the existence of a 'reserve' into consideration, when deciding whether to expend the time/effort in bidding on any particular item. Most real-world auction houses tie the _minimum_ starting bid to a relationship to the reserve, if one exists. e.g. starting bid must be at least 50% of reserve price. Seller can elect to have a starting bid higher than that minimum, allowing auctioneer to drop the opening bid, if no takers at the initial starter. If the opening bid _is_ the reserve minimum, and no takers at that price, then the item is 'withdrawn', without lowering the opening ask. COMMENT: It would be *nice* if eBay would adopt a policy of that type, with regard to reserves and opening bids. Also if they would let an auction run -past- 'closing time' until there were no more bids for some reasonable interval, e.g. 5 minutes. This requires 2 changes -- one to the language, 'auction closes _not_before_ {timestamp}'; the other to the bid handler, where every successful bid updates the closing time to the current close or 'now plus 5 minutes', whichever is later. In real-world auctions, if there is a reserve price, and the reserve is -not- met, when bidding -has- occurred, then the (non-)seller owes the auction house the commission on the actual bid price. Note: if there were -no- bids, then that's a different story. 'Reserve prices' work to the seller's advantage. UNDISCLOSED reserve prices work to the advantage of the seller _and_ the advantage of the auction house. The theory being that the 'frenzy of bidding' will carry the price to a point above where one could _start_ the bidding at. There is *lots* of real-world experience to support that theory. grin |
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