Pilot weight and gliding

Marc Ramsey wrote:
"Liam Finley" wrote...

On the other hand, if you are content to fly Schweizer junk your whole
life, you've got nothing to worry about.


Gee, what a fine way to encourage a newcomer to become involved in this sport.
At least he'll find out what he's up against early on...

Marc




No, I sure don't want to fly Schweizer junk my whole life. But, I'm not
looking to do aerobatics either....and least not on purpose, at this time

Thanks for the replies. Marc, I grew up in newsgroups and really
expected some pretty rude comments, but haven't received any yet. I
have also received some encouraging and enlightening emails. I
apparently am not the only one on this board that has been fighting the
pilot weight problem ;

john

"Liam Finley" wrote...

On the other hand, if you are content to fly
Schweizer junk your whole life, you've got
nothing to worry about.

Unless that was said "tongue-in-cheek", that's just plain ignorant. You don't
have to like it, but Schweizer has its place. Not everyone who loves to go
places and drive has to do so in a Ferrari to enjoy the trip!

--Shirley

Shirley wrote:
"Liam Finley" wrote...


On the other hand, if you are content to fly
Schweizer junk your whole life, you've got
nothing to worry about.


Unless that was said "tongue-in-cheek", that's just plain ignorant. You don't
have to like it, but Schweizer has its place. Not everyone who loves to go
places and drive has to do so in a Ferrari to enjoy the trip!

--Shirley


Well put, Shirley!

john

unicate (Shirley) wrote in message ...
"Liam Finley" wrote...

On the other hand, if you are content to fly
Schweizer junk your whole life, you've got
nothing to worry about.

Unless that was said "tongue-in-cheek", that's just plain ignorant. You don't
have to like it, but Schweizer has its place. Not everyone who loves to go
places and drive has to do so in a Ferrari to enjoy the trip!

--Shirley

Not ignorance. I've more time in Schweizers than most US pilots have
in the air total. Yes, they have their place, it's called an aluminum
recycling plant.

"Liam Finley" wrote in message
m...
unicate (Shirley) wrote in message
...
"Liam Finley" wrote...

On the other hand, if you are content to fly
Schweizer junk your whole life, you've got
nothing to worry about.

Unless that was said "tongue-in-cheek", that's just plain ignorant. You
don't
have to like it, but Schweizer has its place. Not everyone who loves to
go
places and drive has to do so in a Ferrari to enjoy the trip!

--Shirley

Not ignorance. I've more time in Schweizers than most US pilots have
in the air total. Yes, they have their place, it's called an aluminum
recycling plant.

Arrogance perhaps then?

Not ignorance. I've more time in Schweizers than most US pilots have
in the air total. Yes, they have their place, it's called an aluminum
recycling plant.

What a coincidence! I was just opening such a plant! Anyone
wanting to discard their Schweizer please bring it to me and
I will happily pay the going recycle rate.
(Sanford and Sons theme plays in the background, then
Sir Mix-A-Lot lyric "pull up quick to git widdum")

Hmmm...620,000 US pilots, 130K US pilots with Airplane ATP (1500+ hrs).
Average US pilot, must have well over 300 hrs. So Liam has over 300
hours in Schweizers.

How'd he do that since they're such hunks of junk? Perhaps a
LOT of time on tow... :PPPP

(Mark James Boyd) wrote in message ...
How'd he do that since they're such hunks of junk? Perhaps a
LOT of time on tow... :PPPP

No, a lot of time circling, blissfully ignorant of how much more fun
I'd be having if I were flying a well-designed aircraft.

Best designed airplane is the one your backside is in...

OK that's not quite true, but there is as much fun to be had stooging
around in a vintage wood/tube and fabric glider, or a metal aerobatic
plane as there is in a modern composite machine. The flying may be
different, but you can enjoy it just as much.

I fly from a 1950's bergfalke, K13, Blanik L13, Grob 103 and std Cirrus.
On a marginal day or for taking passenger for a gentle ride there is no
question about which is the best. Spins in the K13 are fun - would not
describe them that way in the Cirrus...

When the air is hardly moving you can climb in the Bergie, while the
higher wingloading planes are landing. Control harmonisation wasn't
invented when Egon Scheibe designed this one, and it shows. Flying her
well is part of the fun. I assume the 2-33 is similar.

Now if you want to go somewhere it's a different matter.


Liam Finley wrote:
(Mark James Boyd) wrote in message ...

How'd he do that since they're such hunks of junk? Perhaps a
LOT of time on tow... :PPPP


No, a lot of time circling, blissfully ignorant of how much more fun
I'd be having if I were flying a well-designed aircraft.

JohnH wrote:
have also received some encouraging and enlightening emails. I
apparently am not the only one on this board that has been fighting the
pilot weight problem ;

I weigh 220 and I should probably weigh about 170. I fly powered planes
and I've just started soaring. I don't really know about soaring, since
I just started and my instructor is a beanpole, but in powered planes, my
biggest problem has been how many passengers I can take. Right now I can
get 2 adults and 1 kid, but if I lose the 50 lbs., I can take 3 adults
(assuming that one of them is a woman, probably). Also, when I fly solo,
it means that I could take an extra 9 gallons (1 hour) of fuel on board.

In any case, don't let it bother you -- flying and soaring both kick ass!
Even if you have to fly in big clunky junk, it's still better than not
flying at all.

- awh

In any case, don't let it bother you -- flying and soaring both kick ass!
Even if you have to fly in big clunky junk, it's still better than not
flying at all.

Well said. I've never left the field after soaring without having a smile on
my face.
So far I've only flown in a 2-33, Blanik and 1-26.

Douglas