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Old August 24th 03, 11:54 PM
Greg Arnold
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Wow, a Golf to tow a DG-505. How fast can you go before swaying becomes a
problem?


Using a 90 hp Golf Combi TDI myself to tow any trailer (from Ka-8 to
DG-505) without any performance problems I'm pretty sure that you'll
do ok too.

Bye
Andreas



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Old August 25th 03, 11:34 AM
Andreas Maurer
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 15:54:56 -0700, "Greg Arnold"
wrote:

Wow, a Golf to tow a DG-505. How fast can you go before swaying becomes a
problem?


125 - 130 kp/h is still absolutely unproblematic (even when overtaking
trucks) - I assume that the maximum is in the 140 kp/h region with my
car (we are using a relatively light self-made steel-frame trailer).

I'm driving the latest model of the Golf Variant which is relatively
heavy (1367 kg).

It depends on the trailer - our ASK-21 trailer of similar weight and
dimensions is significantly more problematic - 100 kp/h is the
absolute maximum with this trailer.

Bye
Andreas
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Old August 25th 03, 02:38 PM
Bert Willing
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Just came back from a business trip to the US (fiddeling around with rental
cars). You can't compare US cars to European standards if it comes to
suspension. On my Saab 9-3 with a Komet trailer, I put the cruise control to
135 kph and I'm not at the limits. With a Chevy Malibu (which should have
the same weight and engine size as my Saab), I would never ever tow my
glider.

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Bert Willing

ASW20 "TW"


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On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 15:54:56 -0700, "Greg Arnold"
wrote:

Wow, a Golf to tow a DG-505. How fast can you go before swaying becomes

a
problem?


125 - 130 kp/h is still absolutely unproblematic (even when overtaking
trucks) - I assume that the maximum is in the 140 kp/h region with my
car (we are using a relatively light self-made steel-frame trailer).

I'm driving the latest model of the Golf Variant which is relatively
heavy (1367 kg).

It depends on the trailer - our ASK-21 trailer of similar weight and
dimensions is significantly more problematic - 100 kp/h is the
absolute maximum with this trailer.

Bye
Andreas



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Old August 25th 03, 05:34 PM
Andreas Maurer
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On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 15:38:14 +0200, "Bert Willing"
wrote:

Just came back from a business trip to the US (fiddeling around with rental
cars). You can't compare US cars to European standards if it comes to
suspension. On my Saab 9-3 with a Komet trailer, I put the cruise control to
135 kph and I'm not at the limits. With a Chevy Malibu (which should have
the same weight and engine size as my Saab), I would never ever tow my
glider.


Indeed - US cars usually have a much softer suspension. Do you know if
the US models of European cars also have a different suspension than
their European brothers?



Bye
Andreas
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Old August 25th 03, 07:58 PM
Janusz Kesik
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A bit offtopic then... If I was living in the US, is it possible to =
order a new e.g. VW Golf, but in the European version?

Regards,

JK


Indeed - US cars usually have a much softer suspension. Do you know if
the US models of European cars also have a different suspension than
their European brothers?



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Old August 25th 03, 09:34 PM
JohnH
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Janusz Kesik wrote:
A bit offtopic then... If I was living in the US, is it possible to order a new e.g. VW Golf, but in the European version?

Regards,

JK



Indeed - US cars usually have a much softer suspension. Do you know if
the US models of European cars also have a different suspension than
their European brothers?





I don't understand why they would produce two different versions....off
the Topic even further...Germany limits the BMW K1200 motorcycle to
100hp, but the US model is unrestricted at 129hp, but this is done
without changing major parts..But the VW in Europe to be so radically
different makes no economic sense to me.

john

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Old August 25th 03, 11:33 PM
Doug Hoffman
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"Janusz Kesik" wrote in message ...
A bit offtopic then... If I was living in the US, is it possible to
order a new e.g. VW Golf, but in the European version?


Anything is possible. But it would be very expensive. There would be
mandatory safety and possibly emissions modifications that would have
to be made among other things. You would need acceptable passive
restraints, for example, such as air bags or motorized seat belts
(just to name a couple of items). Even if your "import" had such
features you would need proof that they met US standards. An
engineeriing analysis might suffice, but it wouuld cost you for that.
You may need modifications to the emissions system and likely even
have to run an actual emissions test or two or three... They ain't
cheap. But there are small firms that do this knd of work and will
gladly take your money to make your "import" legal for use in the US
of A.

Sorry to deliver depressing news. The automakers even have to build
two different kinds of emissions systems, in many cases, right here in
the US depending which state the vehicle is going to (California and
some north east states get a unique emissions package, in many cases).

-Doug
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Old August 26th 03, 06:01 AM
JohnH
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Doug Hoffman wrote:
"Janusz Kesik" wrote in message ...

A bit offtopic then... If I was living in the US, is it possible to
order a new e.g. VW Golf, but in the European version?

snip...
Sorry to deliver depressing news. The automakers even have to build
two different kinds of emissions systems, in many cases, right here in
the US depending which state the vehicle is going to (California and
some north east states get a unique emissions package, in many cases).

-Doug


Hmmm, not depressing to me, I only drive trucks, not SUV's, 4x4 4 door
Trucks....;

john

 




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