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Do winglets produce thrust?



 
 
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Old November 28th 03, 09:40 PM
Keith W
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That's against the laws of thermodynamics. If you can make a passive

device
produce thrust you should rule the world with your new perpetual motion
machine! At best it reduces losses.


In my country, our gliders move forward because the wing produces
thrust, and our sailboats move over the water because the sail produces
thrust. Whether we should rule the world is causing much controversy.

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Yep - I was thinking of thrust as a primary force rather than that due to
'tobogganing' (ie a change of supporting force forward of the vertical).
Away I go to the sackcloth and ashes 8-).

As to whether the US should rule the world - I will duck out of that to
prevent a repetition of the reams of vehement verbiage which has already
filled the bit stream 8-))

Keith


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Old November 28th 03, 10:22 PM
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I don't think it was that "US" rules the world.. but more the line that.. he
who masters the air above us.. (glider pilots) .. rule the world..

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"Keith W" wrote in message
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"Eric Greenwell" wrote in message
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Keith W wrote:

"Bob Salvo" wrote in message
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Anyone?
Bob

That's against the laws of thermodynamics. If you can make a passive

device
produce thrust you should rule the world with your new perpetual

motion
machine! At best it reduces losses.


In my country, our gliders move forward because the wing produces
thrust, and our sailboats move over the water because the sail produces
thrust. Whether we should rule the world is causing much controversy.

--
-----
Replace "SPAM" with "charter" to email me directly

Eric Greenwell
Washington State
USA


Yep - I was thinking of thrust as a primary force rather than that due to
'tobogganing' (ie a change of supporting force forward of the vertical).
Away I go to the sackcloth and ashes 8-).

As to whether the US should rule the world - I will duck out of that to
prevent a repetition of the reams of vehement verbiage which has already
filled the bit stream 8-))

Keith




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Old November 28th 03, 11:57 PM
Scott Correa
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Winglets produce lift, with a vector. The vector direction
can be perpendicular to the winglet surface, fwd or aft.
That is dependant on how it is shaped and mounted.
A lift vector facing the nose (fwd) being called thrust
might be a mishmash of terms, but it happens.
I usually think of thrust as a motive force acting on the vehicle.
Winglet vectors are recovery of lost energy by reshaping flow
to our advantage. Good idea, yes, thrust...... probably not
a really good description of what is happening........

Scott.


 




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