Transporting water to glider

In spite of your preference, I have been using a single bed camping air
mattress from Wal-Mart for years. I put it on top of my Jeep Grand Cherokee
and fill with gravity. Need a water bed filling kit to attach hose to the
receptacle. Roll it up when done and it's out of the way. Holds 40 gallons
easily---enough for my '27B

--
Hartley Falbaum
"Bill Daniels" wrote in message
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I Googled r.a.s and found posts about water beds, truck inner tubes and
collapsible plastic cubes from Wal-Mart. The plastic cubes will transport
50 gallons and fit inside my Jeep Grand Cherokee but nothing else will fit
and I don't want to unload the Jeep just for this chore. Full 10 gallon
water containers weigh more than 90 pounds and I don't like lifting that
much to pour it into the wing. I don't like water beds and inner tubes
either.

So, bright r.a.s people, how do you neatly and easily transport ballast
water to the glider if the gliderport doesn't have a tanker or water hoses
on the ramp? Once you get it there, how do you get it into the glider?

Bill Daniels

"HL Falbaum" wrote in message
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In spite of your preference, I have been using a single bed camping air
mattress from Wal-Mart for years. I put it on top of my Jeep Grand
Cherokee
and fill with gravity. Need a water bed filling kit to attach hose to the
receptacle. Roll it up when done and it's out of the way. Holds 40 gallons
easily---enough for my '27B


I just measured the top of my Grand Cherokee and it is 37" across between
the roof rack rails and 57" long with the rack crossbars as far apart as
possible. Do you remember which air mattress you use?

BTW, I checked water beds and all I find are 84" long.

Bill Daniels

To be specific
I use a "Ozark Trail" brand twin size air mattress from Wal-Mart part Num
68957
75" x 37.5" x 7.5" inflated size
The large "exhaust" valve has screw-on thread that fits water bed filling
kit.
It has a velour side for non scratching of car top.
It is nowhere near full at 40 gal, as I routinely fill to 50 "just in case".
I have had occasional "disconnects" in the line and lost some. I think it
would hold more--Let's see----75 x 37.5 x 7.5 = 21,093.75 cu in or 12.207 cu
ft. At 7.48 gal per cu ft that's 91 gal.
I put the hose end under the rear crossbar, and drape the fwd end over the
fwd crossbar. The water flows nicely till nearly empty, then I must fold the
forward part to the rear and so on.
The number from the bar code is 78257 68957
I bought a spare and I am reading from the package. As I recall, the cost
was less than 25 USD at Wal-Mart.

Hope this helps

--
Hartley Falbaum
ASW 27B "KF" USA

"Bill Daniels" wrote in message
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"HL Falbaum" wrote in message
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In spite of your preference, I have been using a single bed camping air
mattress from Wal-Mart for years. I put it on top of my Jeep Grand
Cherokee
and fill with gravity. Need a water bed filling kit to attach hose to
the
receptacle. Roll it up when done and it's out of the way. Holds 40
gallons
easily---enough for my '27B


I just measured the top of my Grand Cherokee and it is 37" across between
the roof rack rails and 57" long with the rack crossbars as far apart as
possible. Do you remember which air mattress you use?

BTW, I checked water beds and all I find are 84" long.

Bill Daniels

"HL Falbaum" wrote in message
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In spite of your preference, I have been using a single bed camping air
mattress from Wal-Mart for years. I put it on top of my Jeep Grand
Cherokee
and fill with gravity. Need a water bed filling kit to attach hose to the
receptacle. Roll it up when done and it's out of the way. Holds 40 gallons
easily---enough for my '27B


I'm rapidly coming around to your solution. My guess is that you are using
the 'Coleman's Kid's Air Mattress' ($12 @ Wall-Mart) that is 28" x 59"x 6"
which will hold about 40 gallons and neatly fits on the roof of the Grand
Cherokee.

However, somewhat belatedly, I just did the W&B on the Nimbus 2C with regard
to water ballast. At the 1433 pound MTOW I will need 500 pounds of ballast
or 60 gallons. The CG moves slightly forward from the current 80% aft
position. (Now I know why the POH specifies 51 PSI in the main tire.)

So, the Kids Mattress isn't going to do it with one trip to the water hole.
Anybody know of a slightly larger waterbed/air mattress?

Bill Daniels

"Bill Daniels" wrote in message
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"HL Falbaum" wrote in message
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In spite of your preference, I have been using a single bed camping air
mattress from Wal-Mart for years. I put it on top of my Jeep Grand
Cherokee
and fill with gravity. Need a water bed filling kit to attach hose to
the
receptacle. Roll it up when done and it's out of the way. Holds 40
gallons
easily---enough for my '27B


I'm rapidly coming around to your solution. My guess is that you are
using
the 'Coleman's Kid's Air Mattress' ($12 @ Wall-Mart) that is 28" x 59"x 6"
which will hold about 40 gallons and neatly fits on the roof of the Grand
Cherokee.

However, somewhat belatedly, I just did the W&B on the Nimbus 2C with
regard
to water ballast. At the 1433 pound MTOW I will need 500 pounds of
ballast
or 60 gallons. The CG moves slightly forward from the current 80% aft
position. (Now I know why the POH specifies 51 PSI in the main tire.)

So, the Kids Mattress isn't going to do it with one trip to the water
hole.
Anybody know of a slightly larger waterbed/air mattress?

Bill Daniels
Hey Bill,
Maybe buy two of 'em and stck 'em up.
'Course you could try puttinng on 50-100 pounds, then you wouldn't need so
much ballast.
Cheers!, Pete
(Still having withdrawal pains)