Long, OT, and something for the conservatives

On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 11:36:41 -0600, scurry
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This is posted to the three groups I normally subscribe to, and
decidedly off topic in any of them. However:


Snip far too common story.

It sucks Richard. Here's to hoping in November.

I notice the lack of outrage at the waste that I've told of. Maybe it
has something to do with who's getting the benefit of the waste.

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On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 11:36:41 -0600, scurry
wrote:

wrote:

This is posted to the three groups I normally subscribe to, and
decidedly off topic in any of them. However:


Snip far too common story.

It sucks Richard. Here's to hoping in November.

I notice the lack of outrage at the waste that I've told of. Maybe it
has something to do with who's getting the benefit of the waste.

Please check the lists of PAC for both sides. Makes no difference!
Money makes the world go round. Don't like it? Move to Utopia, allow
only those that think the way you do in and see how far that culture
goes.Kumbiya yall!

(Larry Johnson) wrote in message . com...

Please check the lists of PAC for both sides. Makes no difference!
Money makes the world go round. Don't like it? Move to Utopia, allow
only those that think the way you do in and see how far that culture
goes.Kumbiya yall!

If you can explain why I shouldn't be disgusted with Medicaid dumping
a few thousand dollars for things I don't need and will just throw
them away, it might be interesting to hear. If there's anything
wrong with thinking that spending a few hundred dollars to keep her at
home instead of in a $1000 a day "facility" makes more sense, I'd like
to hear that too. While you're explaining, tell me why it makes any
sense at all to have two tanks, each 14 inches in diameter and roughly
40 inches tall, of LOX, slowly gassing off, now down to 80% and we
haven't drawn anything out of them, sitting on my porch and nobody has
bothered to show me how to use the damn things. I have no idea how
much they cost, but for them to sit there and just be waste is
criminal, and the tech that left them here is the criminal, or maybe
the guy that told him to leave them. I'm sorry this isn't water, it's
a highly dangerous substance to handle, and without someone showing me
how, I'm not going to touch it. If the people at Aire Liquide take
precautions, and they're professionals, there's no way I'm going to
touch it.

And it's not just MY dollars, it's YOUR dollars that are flowing to
the supplier for NOTHING of any use to me now.

Get back the county nurse, employed and paid by the county, and get
rid of the reaganized, *******ized and dehumanized corporate nurses
that we now have, watch the cost drop and services improve.

IF you can read the list of waste I've put there, and I'm only one of
thousands(?) Millions(?) and not get ****ed off, you're only a
republican.

And what you're saying is that I should watch someone rip the system
into bankruptcy and keep my mouth shut. That would be an admission of
total cowardice.

(Lennie the Lurker) wrote in message . com...
(Larry Johnson) wrote in message . com...

Please check the lists of PAC for both sides. Makes no difference!
Money makes the world go round. Don't like it? Move to Utopia, allow
only those that think the way you do in and see how far that culture
goes.Kumbiya yall!

If you can explain why I shouldn't be disgusted with Medicaid dumping
a few thousand dollars for things I don't need and will just throw
them away, it might be interesting to hear. If there's anything
wrong with thinking that spending a few hundred dollars to keep her at
home instead of in a $1000 a day "facility" makes more sense, I'd like
to hear that too. While you're explaining, tell me why it makes any
sense at all to have two tanks, each 14 inches in diameter and roughly
40 inches tall, of LOX, slowly gassing off, now down to 80% and we
haven't drawn anything out of them, sitting on my porch and nobody has
bothered to show me how to use the damn things. I have no idea how
much they cost, but for them to sit there and just be waste is
criminal, and the tech that left them here is the criminal, or maybe
the guy that told him to leave them. I'm sorry this isn't water, it's
a highly dangerous substance to handle, and without someone showing me
how, I'm not going to touch it. If the people at Aire Liquide take
precautions, and they're professionals, there's no way I'm going to
touch it.

And it's not just MY dollars, it's YOUR dollars that are flowing to
the supplier for NOTHING of any use to me now.

Get back the county nurse, employed and paid by the county, and get
rid of the reaganized, *******ized and dehumanized corporate nurses
that we now have, watch the cost drop and services improve.

IF you can read the list of waste I've put there, and I'm only one of
thousands(?) Millions(?) and not get ****ed off, you're only a
republican.

And what you're saying is that I should watch someone rip the system
into bankruptcy and keep my mouth shut. That would be an admission of
total cowardice.

Please notice the phrase"both sides". That's the problem. Until we as
a country think less about right/left and more right/wrong business
will be as usual

(Lennie the Lurker) wrote in message . com...
(Larry Johnson) wrote in message . com...

Please check the lists of PAC for both sides. Makes no difference!
Money makes the world go round. Don't like it? Move to Utopia, allow
only those that think the way you do in and see how far that culture
goes.Kumbiya yall!

If you can explain why I shouldn't be disgusted with Medicaid dumping
a few thousand dollars for things I don't need and will just throw
them away, it might be interesting to hear. If there's anything
wrong with thinking that spending a few hundred dollars to keep her at
home instead of in a $1000 a day "facility" makes more sense, I'd like
to hear that too. While you're explaining, tell me why it makes any
sense at all to have two tanks, each 14 inches in diameter and roughly
40 inches tall, of LOX, slowly gassing off, now down to 80% and we
haven't drawn anything out of them, sitting on my porch and nobody has
bothered to show me how to use the damn things. I have no idea how
much they cost, but for them to sit there and just be waste is
criminal, and the tech that left them here is the criminal, or maybe
the guy that told him to leave them. I'm sorry this isn't water, it's
a highly dangerous substance to handle, and without someone showing me
how, I'm not going to touch it. If the people at Aire Liquide take
precautions, and they're professionals, there's no way I'm going to
touch it.

And it's not just MY dollars, it's YOUR dollars that are flowing to
the supplier for NOTHING of any use to me now.

Get back the county nurse, employed and paid by the county, and get
rid of the reaganized, *******ized and dehumanized corporate nurses
that we now have, watch the cost drop and services improve.

IF you can read the list of waste I've put there, and I'm only one of
thousands(?) Millions(?) and not get ****ed off, you're only a
republican.

And what you're saying is that I should watch someone rip the system
into bankruptcy and keep my mouth shut. That would be an admission of
total cowardice.

Please read phrase "both sides". Until we as a nation decide that
right/wrong is better than right/left we will have problems. With
everything "middle men" and others have a piece of the pie. I don't
see either candidate or party living in single family dwellings that
cost less than their annual earnings nor see them at the clinic
waiting for their health care. Just pointing out that neither REPS or
DEMS can claim halos or wings on this. As to cowerdice, remember we
can do it or let the government do it for us. Your choice.
Oh, I agree with the good'ole days- 'cept I prefer penicillin to
castor oil.

On 5 Sep 2004 09:03:22 -0700, (Larry Johnson) wrote:


Please read phrase "both sides". Until we as a nation decide that
right/wrong is better than right/left we will have problems.

Until you get the right wing to finally realize that letting business
have their way without any regulation is stupid, you will continue to
have waste such as I have described. There are limits on what my
daughter can order, apparently there are no limits on what a
corporation can decide, in their "infinite wisdom", that she needs.
Even though I don't have the apparatus that most of the crap they sent
goes with.

Someone, somewhere, sitting in a corporate office, decided that the
LOX was more "cost efficient", and I'm betting that it's more
efficient to them, and $445 a month for them, instead of what the 25
cu/ft tanks bring them. I don't have a bill for the concentrator yet,
but I'm willing to bet that they can be purchased for just about what
the monthly rent is going to be. If so, I might be $1500 poorer for
it, but I see no sense in paying someone the purchase price every
month, I'd rather buy two of them, one in use and the other in standby
until needed. The only problem is that the doctor works for the same
company that supplies them, and you have to have a prescription to buy
one. WHich is only one result of the ruin of raygun deciding that
business can be trusted. They have never been worthy of trust and
never will be.

There is a system to the republican side, if you disagree with
anything, such as would actually HELP people, remove all the supply
side controls, and bankrupt it as quickly as possible.

And the LOX tanks are down to 75%, we still haven't drawn anything
from them, and from the company, we get a deafening silence. While I
sit with two potential bombs on my front porch.

Oh, I agree with the good'ole days- 'cept I prefer penicillin to
castor oil.

Penicillin and cyanide have the same effect on me. Either one means I
die.

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On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 11:36:41 -0600, scurry
wrote:


wrote:


This is posted to the three groups I normally subscribe to, and
decidedly off topic in any of them. However:



Snip far too common story.

It sucks Richard. Here's to hoping in November.


I notice the lack of outrage at the waste that I've told of. Maybe it
has something to do with who's getting the benefit of the waste.

Not big on ranting poetic on usenet (at least not more than about 50
words worth). Doesn't fix anything. Acting and voting locally does.
That's what I do. You do indeed have my sympathy.

Shawn

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 19:04:15 -0600, scurry
wrote:


Not big on ranting poetic on usenet (at least not more than about 50
words worth). Doesn't fix anything. Acting and voting locally does.
That's what I do. You do indeed have my sympathy.

Not referring to you anyhow, and don't need or want sympathy. What I
want is maybe people can look around and see how many other times they
see it happen, then get your local politician by the naughts screaming
"How's come? Cause why?" These aren't just my tax dollars, they're
everyones tax dollars, and if anyone sees them being totally wasted,
they have a perfect right to scream bloody murder about it. Everyone
screams about the high cost of Medicare/Medicaid, and waste, well,
here are some pretty good examples, but the waste isn't by the end
user, it's by the supply side. If my tool supplier decided that I
needed a dozen TNMG-544 carbide inserts, and billed my credit card for
them, I'd have him dangling on music wire from his naughts, why should
a private supplier that gets paid by Medicaid get away with it on a
grander scale?

One more example, people that are on Title 19, if they wish to have
one of the handycapped scooters, MAY NOT pay for it out of their own
pocket, Medicaid must be billed or the vendor will not sell you the
same thing that the local grocer probably has a couple of for the use
of customers. However, that same vendor will gladly sell it to
someone that is NOTon title 19 and clearly has no need of it. Which
is how my daughter got hers.

How does anyone else spell ripoff?