4-seater

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Dans l'article ,
(soarski) a écrit :
really see the state of mind of the passenger.
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Almost all the clubs in Europe give rides, this is how they keep the
kitty from getting empty. There are at least 3 com. operations in
Germany. More in France. The Clubs call them Schnupperfluege. Sniff
out the activity.


As far as I know, except Quo Vadis, the commercial operating organization
of Klaus Ohlmann, there are no commercial operations in France. The CNVV
(Centre National de Vol à Voile) in Saint Auban may seem very similar to
a commercial operation, as it is operated by full time professionals, but
it is a non profit organization. Almost all the clubs in France give rides,
but very few make any profit on that, as this is forbidden by the law, so
this cannot be used to keep the kitty from getting empty.

"Robert Ehrlich" wrote in message ...
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Dans l'article ,
(soarski) a écrit :
really see the state of mind of the passenger.
...
Almost all the clubs in Europe give rides, this is how they keep the
kitty from getting empty. There are at least 3 com. operations in
Germany. More in France. The Clubs call them Schnupperfluege. Sniff
out the activity.


As far as I know, except Quo Vadis, the commercial operating organization
of Klaus Ohlmann, there are no commercial operations in France. The CNVV
(Centre National de Vol à Voile) in Saint Auban may seem very similar to
a commercial operation, as it is operated by full time professionals, but
it is a non profit organization. Almost all the clubs in France give rides,
but very few make any profit on that, as this is forbidden by the law, so
this cannot be used to keep the kitty from getting empty.

I wonder what the French charge for an hr ride in a '25 ? Those Pros.
Good Lawyers involved?

soarski wrote:

I wonder what the French charge for an hr ride in a '25 ? Those Pros.
Good Lawyers involved?

No, but reasonable judges outside the USA.

Stefan

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Dans l'article ,
(soarski) a écrit :


"Robert Ehrlich" wrote in message
...
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Almost all the clubs in France give rides,
but very few make any profit on that, as this is forbidden by the law, so
this cannot be used to keep the kitty from getting empty.

I wonder what the French charge for an hr ride in a '25 ? Those Pros.
Good Lawyers involved?

I don't know for an hr ride in a '25 (ASH 25 ?). In my club rides are
on ASK21, cost is 55 euros (45 per person for groups of 2 or more) for
20 to 30 minutes. I confess that when I am the pilot for a ride, when
this is the last ride of the day, i.e. there is nobody waiting for the
glider and thermels are still there, I tend to make the flight longer
than these 30 minutes.

The question of profit is watched much more by the French equivalent
of IRS, as making profit should mean paying taxes. Anyway the question
of profit just on rides is disputable if it just compensates deficit
on other acivities. I know that such things exist in some club and are
toleraterd as long as it is not to important.

You are right on the fact that besides Klaus, nobody runs a commercial
operation in France (and there are very few in Germany).
However, rides are a very good source of income for clubs, and they make
good money out of it - which is in turn used to pay the bills...

--
Bert Willing

ASW20 "TW"


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Dans l'article ,
(soarski) a écrit :
really see the state of mind of the passenger.
...
Almost all the clubs in Europe give rides, this is how they keep the
kitty from getting empty. There are at least 3 com. operations in
Germany. More in France. The Clubs call them Schnupperfluege. Sniff
out the activity.


As far as I know, except Quo Vadis, the commercial operating organization
of Klaus Ohlmann, there are no commercial operations in France. The CNVV
(Centre National de Vol à Voile) in Saint Auban may seem very similar to
a commercial operation, as it is operated by full time professionals, but
it is a non profit organization. Almost all the clubs in France give
rides,
but very few make any profit on that, as this is forbidden by the law, so
this cannot be used to keep the kitty from getting empty.