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Old March 9th 05, 07:31 AM
John A. Weeks III
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"Scot Bearup" wrote:

Find me a city mayor willing to take a shipload of homeless people from all
parts of the country and I'll show you a mayor who will be looking for
another job in the immediate future. This idea is stupid. Not only is it
not cost effective, but from a liability standpoint its financial suicide.


OK, its time to wind this discussion down. But one last tidbit...

Back in the 70's some guy who called himself "Bagwhan Ramesh" or
something to that effect chartered a bunch of busses and sent
them to various cities. He collected homeless people, and only
promised them a meal if they got on the bus. He took all these
people, thousands of them, to a place in the middle of nowhere
called Antelope, Montana. Bagwhan was already famous because
he had over 50 Rolls Royces, all painted in bizarre patterns like
flowers. The locals up there tried to throw this group out.
The responded by getting all the former homeless people to
register to vote. They voted all the natives out of office and
took over the city government. I don't recall what finally
happened. I think they failed to file taxes and the IRS got
them. At any rate, the entire town was forsale at one point.

It can be done. If you build it, they will come.

-john-

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Old March 9th 05, 11:10 AM
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John A. Weeks III wrote:
OK, its time to wind this discussion down.


Way past time. Someone (was it you?) should be spanked for floating the
idea in the first place. But let me point out the likely reason for the
resistance you're encountering, because I believe you're not trolling,
merely misguided.

The homeless/carrier thing is simply the wrong solution to the wrong
problem. Like many well-intentioned people, you're attacking the
symptom rather than the cause. The focus should be on eliminating
homelessness, not warehousing the homeless.

But even if warehousing were the goal, putting them on an aircraft is,
if I may say so, a spectacularly bad way to do it. If you would only
reflect on it it a bit, you'd no doubt come to the same conclusion.

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Old March 10th 05, 05:41 AM
John A. Weeks III
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John Miller wrote:

But even if warehousing were the goal, putting them on an aircraft is,
if I may say so, a spectacularly bad way to do it. If you would only
reflect on it it a bit, you'd no doubt come to the same conclusion.


Actually, I thought the symbolism would be very powerful...using
the most powerful warship afloat to help fight the war on poverty
and homelessness. And of retasking billions of dollars of cold
war spending into a humanitarian project for the 21st century.

A had not intentions of simply "warehousing" people. Like
someone pointed out, there is a lot to running one of these
boats. That would give work to the residents to keep the
place operating. And the hangar deck is big enough to play
football on one end, soccer on the other end, and still have
room for a band and tennis court in the middle. The carriers
that I have toured have post offices, doctor's offices, a
dentist office, kitchens, shops, radio rooms, and all kinds
of stuff to keep people busy and making a contribution.

-john-

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Old March 9th 05, 11:13 AM
Keith W
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"John A. Weeks III" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Scot Bearup" wrote:

Find me a city mayor willing to take a shipload of homeless people from
all
parts of the country and I'll show you a mayor who will be looking for
another job in the immediate future. This idea is stupid. Not only is
it
not cost effective, but from a liability standpoint its financial
suicide.


OK, its time to wind this discussion down. But one last tidbit...

Back in the 70's some guy who called himself "Bagwhan Ramesh" or
something to that effect chartered a bunch of busses and sent
them to various cities. He collected homeless people, and only
promised them a meal if they got on the bus. He took all these
people, thousands of them, to a place in the middle of nowhere
called Antelope, Montana. Bagwhan was already famous because
he had over 50 Rolls Royces, all painted in bizarre patterns like
flowers. The locals up there tried to throw this group out.
The responded by getting all the former homeless people to
register to vote. They voted all the natives out of office and
took over the city government. I don't recall what finally
happened. I think they failed to file taxes and the IRS got
them. At any rate, the entire town was forsale at one point.


You have it almost totally wrong.

This was a cult led by the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh and his followers
built the Rajneeshpuram commune. Not only did they have a habit of
flaunting land use ordinances and election laws but they took to poisoning
those who opposed them.

It can be done. If you build it, they will come.


Thats what Jim Jones said in Guyana I believe.

Keith



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