Lakeway, TX

I swear this seems like I've read this before. Did someone just post on
this like two months ago or something. Am I going crazy?
"Russ" wrote in message
ups.com...
When I was on final I heard "Airport closed". The person transmitting
the message didn't identify which airport and I took it for granted
that it couldn't be Lakeway because the sun was still shining so bright
that I couldn't look at it. I glanced at my watch out of habit during
rollout and it was about 2018L. There has to be a citizen of lakeway
that observes the airport and immedialely calls the cops when someone
lands somewhere close to sunset. At any rate thanks for your reply. I
changed my name from birdman to Russ by the way. I'm the same person
that wrote the original message. Thanks


John E. Carty wrote:
The residents around Lakeway have been trying for a long time to get
it
closed, they even have purposely placed deer feeders just off the
airport
property near both ends of the runway. I used to fly out of their
quite
frequently but now avoid the place like the plague :-(


"birdman" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hello,

I have a complaint and feel that I was taken advantage of by the
court
system in Lakeway TX. It concerns my landing a small plane at
Lakeway
Airport in July, of 2004. I knew that the Airport is closed after
sunset and before sunrise but I was issued a ticket by a police
officer
that didn't even know what time sunset was. I wanted to pursue it
via a local television station and see if you could keep other
people
from being taken advantage of. The following excerpt is from an
email
that I sent to an aviation bulletin board.


"I landed at Lakeway in the middle of July, 2004. Sunset was 8:30
pm
according to the newspaper and other official records. I touched
down
at about 8:20 pm and had the airplane tied down and walking away
when a
policeman came up and issued me a ticket for landing after sunset.
I
told him I touched down at 8:20 pm and asked him of the exact time
of
sunset. He didn't know but issued me a $1200 ticket. I had 3
witnesses with sworn affidavits as to the time that I touched down
but
no lawyers would touch the case because of Lakeway's reputation of
people loosing cases in court. It is a court of record and they
film
all activity so if you loose you not only have to pay the ticket
but
you have to pay court costs that are extremely high. They even
give
tickets to people walking in the park after sunset when signs are
not
in plain sight. It's $200 by the way for that offense. This happen
to
a daughter and son-in-law of a local airport resident that was baby
sitting their grandchild while their daughter and son-in-law went
out
to eat. They finished dinner early so they decided to go walking
in
the park and was promptly issued a ticket in broad daylight for
walking
in the park after sunset. They have changed the speed limit signs
overnight and have ticketed the citizens without issuing notices.
If
you land anywhere close to sunset, please have accurate touchdown
times
and a camera to prove your innocence. It takes more than witnesses
to
even get representation for a court hearing. I finally found an
AOPA
lawyer to represent me but after talking to his lawyer friends, he
convinced me to ask for deferred adjudication which I did. Lakeway
should abide by FAA regulations of 30 minutes before and after
sunset
and should install an AWOS(Automatic Weather Observation Service)
to
announce the sunset times in Lakeway because they are obviously
different than the real times."

I have been on probation with Lakeway since July of 2004 and am off
this month. I didn't want to pursue any action until now for fear
that they would automatically raise my fine back to the $1200. I
ended
up with 6 months probation and a 750 dollar fine. Please consider
following up on this injustice. I will do anything to help spread
the
word about the way the community of Lakeway does business. By the
way,
Lakeway had an official sunset link on their website that stated
sunset
as being 2031 and after I was issued the ticket the link was taken
out
of the website. Is it a coverup? Thanks





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BTW, there's nothing saying you can't buzz the airport after sunset. Even if
there was a law, they couldn't get your tail number at night.
"Slick" wrote in message ...
I swear this seems like I've read this before. Did someone just post on
this like two months ago or something. Am I going crazy?
"Russ" wrote in message
ups.com...
When I was on final I heard "Airport closed". The person transmitting
the message didn't identify which airport and I took it for granted
that it couldn't be Lakeway because the sun was still shining so bright
that I couldn't look at it. I glanced at my watch out of habit during
rollout and it was about 2018L. There has to be a citizen of lakeway
that observes the airport and immedialely calls the cops when someone
lands somewhere close to sunset. At any rate thanks for your reply. I
changed my name from birdman to Russ by the way. I'm the same person
that wrote the original message. Thanks


John E. Carty wrote:
The residents around Lakeway have been trying for a long time to get
it
closed, they even have purposely placed deer feeders just off the
airport
property near both ends of the runway. I used to fly out of their
quite
frequently but now avoid the place like the plague :-(


"birdman" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hello,

I have a complaint and feel that I was taken advantage of by the
court
system in Lakeway TX. It concerns my landing a small plane at
Lakeway
Airport in July, of 2004. I knew that the Airport is closed after
sunset and before sunrise but I was issued a ticket by a police
officer
that didn't even know what time sunset was. I wanted to pursue it
via a local television station and see if you could keep other
people
from being taken advantage of. The following excerpt is from an
email
that I sent to an aviation bulletin board.


"I landed at Lakeway in the middle of July, 2004. Sunset was 8:30
pm
according to the newspaper and other official records. I touched
down
at about 8:20 pm and had the airplane tied down and walking away
when a
policeman came up and issued me a ticket for landing after sunset.
I
told him I touched down at 8:20 pm and asked him of the exact time
of
sunset. He didn't know but issued me a $1200 ticket. I had 3
witnesses with sworn affidavits as to the time that I touched down
but
no lawyers would touch the case because of Lakeway's reputation of
people loosing cases in court. It is a court of record and they
film
all activity so if you loose you not only have to pay the ticket
but
you have to pay court costs that are extremely high. They even
give
tickets to people walking in the park after sunset when signs are
not
in plain sight. It's $200 by the way for that offense. This happen
to
a daughter and son-in-law of a local airport resident that was baby
sitting their grandchild while their daughter and son-in-law went
out
to eat. They finished dinner early so they decided to go walking
in
the park and was promptly issued a ticket in broad daylight for
walking
in the park after sunset. They have changed the speed limit signs
overnight and have ticketed the citizens without issuing notices.
If
you land anywhere close to sunset, please have accurate touchdown
times
and a camera to prove your innocence. It takes more than witnesses
to
even get representation for a court hearing. I finally found an
AOPA
lawyer to represent me but after talking to his lawyer friends, he
convinced me to ask for deferred adjudication which I did. Lakeway
should abide by FAA regulations of 30 minutes before and after
sunset
and should install an AWOS(Automatic Weather Observation Service)
to
announce the sunset times in Lakeway because they are obviously
different than the real times."

I have been on probation with Lakeway since July of 2004 and am off
this month. I didn't want to pursue any action until now for fear
that they would automatically raise my fine back to the $1200. I
ended
up with 6 months probation and a 750 dollar fine. Please consider
following up on this injustice. I will do anything to help spread
the
word about the way the community of Lakeway does business. By the
way,
Lakeway had an official sunset link on their website that stated
sunset
as being 2031 and after I was issued the ticket the link was taken
out
of the website. Is it a coverup? Thanks





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