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![]() "David CL Francis" wrote in message ... On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 at 22:10:56 in message R5QZd.71896$Tt.15712@fed1read05, BTIZ wrote: All of the others talk of temperature rise do to compressibility based on mach number, but no one really addressed the speed accounting for friction of air molecules on the sheet metal which warms the aircraft. War story time, low level over the plains of eastern Montana, near Conrad and Havre Bomb Plots (Radar Bomb Scoring sites) and the outside air temp was about -15F, however, we were moving along at about .88mach at 500ft AGL, and the skin temperature was about 100F, not a worry about accumulating icing. Some one else referred to "Speed of heat" as being Mach 1, because most aircraft need after-burner or "heat" (reheat) as the Brits would say.. to make Mach1. BTDT The stagnation temperature I recall is roughly given by the following: Ts/T1 = (1 + (M^2)/5) Where T1 is the absolute air temperature and Ts is the stagnation temperature. So if the outside air temperature is -10C and the Mach number is 0.5 then T1 = 263 Ts = 263*(1 + 0.25/5) = 263 *1.05 = +3.15 degrees That is the _maximum_ temperature rise at the stagnation point. Elsewhere it will be lower. The heat transfer through the ice and aluminium and their thermal capacity will affect how long it takes. The fact that it depends on the square of the mach number brings the effect down markedly at lower speeds. -- David CL Francis I have flight manuals that give a correction for airspeed and altitude and the numbers are much higher than 3C even though the speeds are below M0.5. In the MU-2, the temp sensor is in the tail section where the cross section of the fusilage is actually decreasing.. Is there both a compression and a friction heating of surfaces due to airflow? Mike MU-2 |
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The stagnation temperature I recall is roughly given by the following:
Ts/T1 = (1 + (M^2)/5) "Mike Rapoport" wrote in message link.net... I have flight manuals that give a correction for airspeed and altitude and the numbers are much higher than 3C even though the speeds are below M0.5. In the MU-2, the temp sensor is in the tail section where the cross section of the fusilage is actually decreasing.. I think the problem is only with the numbers that got plugged in. At M = 0.5, you get Ts/T1 = 1.05. In other words a 5% temp rise. 5% of about 273 K is about 13 K, i.e. 13 degC. Is there both a compression and a friction heating of surfaces due to airflow? It's the same phenomenon. The "friction" occurs because the air is brought to stagnation in the boundary layer. Julian Scarfe |
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On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 at 23:27:50 in message
.net, Mike Rapoport wrote: I have flight manuals that give a correction for airspeed and altitude and the numbers are much higher than 3C even though the speeds are below M0.5. In the MU-2, the temp sensor is in the tail section where the cross section of the fusilage is actually decreasing.. Is there both a compression and a friction heating of surfaces due to airflow? Of course; but I don't think the driving temperature can get higher than the stagnation temperature. Let's try it for Concorde: At 55,000 ft the outside standard air temperature is 217 deg K So Ts = To(1 + (2.05^2)/5) = 408 == 126 C That is very close to the value quoted in Brian Trubshaw's book about Concorde. The chart on page 34 shows the nose temperature at 127 C, the leading edge of the wing at 105 C, pilots cockpit area skin temperature at 97C decreasing towards the rear fuselage at 91 C. Mind the fuel in the wings kept down their temperature from rising too high! It does not show the fins or air intakes but I doubt they were much higher than the forward fuselage section just behind the nose at 100 C. -- David CL Francis |
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