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Old March 26th 05, 08:55 PM
Morgans
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"Dave Stadt" wrote

The guy on the radio is an FAA controller. The guy with the flag is a
volunteer. Damnit out ranks a flag.


On takeoff?

Every time I have been out for takeoff was the rush after the airshow, and
there were FAA pink shirts letting people onto the runway. I have never
seen any volunteers with flags anywhere other than taxiways. Have you seen
different, and if so, where?
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Jim in NC


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Old March 27th 05, 12:11 AM
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That is essentially correct. We typically marshall aircraft right up to
the runway itself, at which point the lead controller for that
particular runway (standing with a spotter on the "MOO-COW" little
trailer parked next to the runway) calls you out by "N" number (or "C"
letters for that matter!) and will typically tell you "into position
and hold".
We do not, ever, clear anyone onto the runway ourselves. The pink
shirts do that. When I work the "point" (the position where all the
traffic merges together right before the runway) I usually have a radio
that I'm monitoring.
Hence, we may be telling you to stop, and the controller wants you to
move. There might be slight delay. Or we are telling you to stop for
another reason, such as sorting out an IFR departure that may stage
from a different area and needs to move thru. (especially with RWY 27
departures, we don't have much room to work with on rwy 9 departures).
But in essence, an orange shirt should not be waving you onto the
runway. Only the pink shirts do. (unless we are told to by a pink
shirt).
I think the most fun at OSH for a volunteer is the point on RWY 9-27
just after the airshow. I would think it comes closest to what working
on an aircraft carrier deck must be like (on dry land). I know the
controllers like it. It is a thing of beauty when it works right.

Ryan
Co-Chair, Flight Line OPS, EAA OSH
Madison, WI

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Old March 27th 05, 06:10 AM
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I think the most fun at OSH for a volunteer is the point on RWY 9-27
just after the airshow. I would think it comes closest to what working
on an aircraft carrier deck must be like (on dry land). I know the
controllers like it. It is a thing of beauty when it works right.


Agreed. And it's a real mess when something or someone goes stupid.

All in all, however, it's usually a remarkable ground & aerial ballet, with
everyone working in perfect harmony and unison.

Thanks for making it work!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old March 27th 05, 07:32 PM
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Package inbound. Contents:

Diode cases from the diodes in the Apollo 11 landing radar including the
hand-inked diode test results from Hughes Electronics.

Test instrument used for testing the operation of the radar into a simulated
landing environment.

Photographs of a VERY young engineer being shown on a model of the LEM where
the landing radar was going.

Photographs of a VERY young engineer out on the antenna pattern range in a
40 knot wind testing a breadboard of the radar circuit.

Clippings from electronic magazines of the day telling about how electronics
made the sucker work.

Copy of the customs form used to "clear" the astronauts back into Honolulu.


Forgot:

2 commemorative coins from Apollo 15 telling how our video transmitter was
used for the first live mobile video from Lunar Rover I.


I'll mail the coins later. Enjoy.

Jim



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Old March 27th 05, 07:59 PM
Matt Whiting
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RST Engineering wrote:

Package inbound. Contents:

Diode cases from the diodes in the Apollo 11 landing radar including the
hand-inked diode test results from Hughes Electronics.

Test instrument used for testing the operation of the radar into a simulated
landing environment.

Photographs of a VERY young engineer being shown on a model of the LEM where
the landing radar was going.

Photographs of a VERY young engineer out on the antenna pattern range in a
40 knot wind testing a breadboard of the radar circuit.

Clippings from electronic magazines of the day telling about how electronics
made the sucker work.

Copy of the customs form used to "clear" the astronauts back into Honolulu.


Forgot:

2 commemorative coins from Apollo 15 telling how our video transmitter was
used for the first live mobile video from Lunar Rover I.


I'll mail the coins later. Enjoy.

Jim




Who was the VERY young engineer? :-)

Matt
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Old March 28th 05, 03:06 AM
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Package inbound. Contents:

Snipped Cool Stuff

Wow! Thanks, Jim.

Our upcoming Apollo Suite will be one for the books, thanks to your
contributions!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old March 28th 05, 05:27 AM
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("Jay Honeck" wrote)
Our upcoming Apollo Suite will be one for the books, thanks to your
contributions!



I'm seeing an entire wall (painting) of Mission Control specialists peeking
over the top of their work stations - looking into the suite ...back at the
guests.

Too conceptual? :-)(-:

(Leave the date fields blank)
http://tinyurl.com/4hj2d
Life magazine covers: Keyword - Apollo

http://tinyurl.com/6arue
Life magazine covers: Keyword - astronauts

http://tinyurl.com/4b6ek
Life magazine covers: Keyword - moon

http://www.life.com/Life/search/covers
Fun site to go to and reminisce.

I have an older sister, who in high school cut the covers off every Life
magazines that came into the house and taped them to her bedroom walls -
hundreds of covers over a number of years. I think it's something kids did
back then. I'm guessing 1967-1971. (I was in first grade when the "wall
covers" went up)


Montblack

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Old March 28th 05, 05:57 AM
RST Engineering
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Wouldn't that sort of...ummm...inhibit the activities of the suite
inhabitants? I mean, I'm not particularly opposed to voyeurism, but the
whole damned mission control watching?

"Liftoff, we have LIFTOFF". "We have orbit insertion".

Jim






"Montblack" wrote in message
...
("Jay Honeck" wrote)
Our upcoming Apollo Suite will be one for the books, thanks to your
contributions!



I'm seeing an entire wall (painting) of Mission Control specialists
peeking
over the top of their work stations - looking into the suite ...back at
the
guests.



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Old March 28th 05, 06:03 AM
George Patterson
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Montblack wrote:

I'm seeing an entire wall (painting) of Mission Control specialists peeking
over the top of their work stations - looking into the suite ...back at the
guests.


"Houston - ahh - we have a problem."

George Patterson
Drink up, Socrates -- it's all-natural.
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Old March 28th 05, 02:10 PM
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In article ,
"Montblack" wrote:

Our upcoming Apollo Suite will be one for the books, thanks to your
contributions!


I'm seeing an entire wall (painting) of Mission Control specialists peeking
over the top of their work stations - looking into the suite ...back at the
guests.


how about having them look at something else? Like a launch, or something
really different like the Wright brother's first flight?

--
Bob Noel
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