Theft From Baggage-Continental

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:23:59 GMT, "Grumman-581"
wrote in jiO1e.110706$r55.69723@attbi_s52::

I'm sure that you
know how to go to the FAA database via www.landings.com and get my name and
physical address

And what search terms would we enter in the Landings FAA database
search engine?

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:39:52 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote:

I'm sure that you
know how to go to the FAA database via www.landings.com and get my name and
physical address

And what search terms would we enter in the Landings FAA database
search engine?


read the header of his posting for his email.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z2F2313CA (redirects to landings.com)
this wasn't that hard. *dooh*

#m
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:54:53 GMT, Martin Hotze
wrote in ::

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:39:52 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote:

I'm sure that you
know how to go to the FAA database via www.landings.com and get my name and
physical address

And what search terms would we enter in the Landings FAA database
search engine?


read the header of his posting for his email.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z2F2313CA (redirects to landings.com)
this wasn't that hard. *dooh*

#m

So now the FAA Airmans database contains e-mail addresses?

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:45:04 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote:

read the header of his posting for his email.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z2F2313CA (redirects to landings.com)
this wasn't that hard. *dooh*

#m

So now the FAA Airmans database contains e-mail addresses?

reading the WHOLE posting really seems to be a challenge.

(and his pointer to the FAA database was in context to anonymous posting)

#m
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:54:53 GMT, Martin Hotze
wrote in ::

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:39:52 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote:

I'm sure that you
know how to go to the FAA database via www.landings.com and get my name and
physical address

And what search terms would we enter in the Landings FAA database
search engine?


read the header of his posting for his email.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z2F2313CA (redirects to landings.com)
this wasn't that hard. *dooh*

#m

Here's the header:

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I see neither Mr. Grumman's (valid) e-mail address nor tail number
there. Can you point either of them out for me?

Larry Dighera wrote:

I see neither Mr. Grumman's (valid) e-mail address nor tail number
there. Can you point either of them out for me?

Tail number is 581. As in "Podunk tower, this is Grumman 581."

George Patterson
Drink up, Socrates -- it's all-natural.

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:34:12 GMT, George Patterson
wrote in ::



Larry Dighera wrote:

I see neither Mr. Grumman's (valid) e-mail address nor tail number
there. Can you point either of them out for me?

Tail number is 581. As in "Podunk tower, this is Grumman 581."


How do you know it's not: NXX581?

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:34:12 GMT, George Patterson
wrote in ::



Larry Dighera wrote:

I see neither Mr. Grumman's (valid) e-mail address nor tail number
there. Can you point either of them out for me?

Tail number is 581. As in "Podunk tower, this is Grumman 581."


In response to e-mail from Grumman-581, I replied:


-----------------------------------------
Sir:

First, let me say that I agree with your assessment of anonymously
posted articles. Anonymity fosters irresponsibility.

My comments in-line below:


On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:22:59 -0000, you wrote
. com:

Larry Dighera wrote:
How do you know it's not: NXX581?

Because XX581 would not fit on my tail with 12" letters?

How am I supposed to know that your aircraft is not large enough to
display the normal 5-character registration number? Where is that
fact stated?

Because I didn't say, Grumman XX581?

As you know, after initial contact, ATC refers to most GA aircraft by
the last three characters of their registration number, so it is
reasonable that you may be only using that part of your registration
number in your e-mail address. It is also possible that Grumman-581
may refer to an aircraft type and not a registration number at all;
after all, it contains no initial 'N' to provide a clue that it is
actually an FAA registration number.

You wouldn't prehaps be an FAA controller, would you?

Nope. I'm just a fellow airman.

Many of them seem to have a problem with the concept of "small plane, small number"
also...

I failed to notice in your articles posted to rec.aviation.piloting
any reference to the fact that you own a small sized aircraft. Are
you able to provide a citation where that information is readily
apparent?

I'm not trying to be difficult, but only pointing out that there is a
bit of ambiguity if not a modicum of presumption in expecting folks to
interpret Grumman-581 as an FAA registration number.


Best regards,
Larry Dighera


PS: I have used my correct e-mail address on Usenet since first
posting articles in 1985. I choose not to grant the e-mail harvesting
'bots the power to coerce me into intentionally introducing errors in
my e-mail address.

Larry,

We have conversed on the newsgroup before...
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...e0369e21ef8686
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...21aa9cfe6 635
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...2ac56f847 95c
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...da2fbf923 232

Some were before I started using my aircraft type and tail number in my
posts...

First, let me say that I agree with your assessment of anonymously
posted articles. Anonymity fosters irresponsibility.

Agreed... That might not be the case with the one currently on r.a.p.,
but he has the same posting name as all the other anonymous cowards
that are trolls at best and as such, not worth reading... By
continuing to use that posting name, he has linked himself with them
and I don't think that they are really the types that one would want
to be associated with...

How am I supposed to know that your aircraft is not large enough to
display the normal 5-character registration number? Where is that
fact stated?

A simple Google search would bring up a lot of posts from me... In
some of them, you'll even find my real name and where my plane was
based at that point in time... Because of my profession, the location
of the plane changes, but I try to keep the FAA database updated with
the latest info...

As you know, after initial contact, ATC refers to most GA aircraft by
the last three characters of their registration number, so it is
reasonable that you may be only using that part of your registration
number in your e-mail address.

Perhaps, but if one wants to ensure that they have an email address
that is not used by anyone, one should use their full registration
number...

It is also possible that Grumman-581 may refer to an aircraft
type and not a registration number at all; after all, it contains
no initial 'N' to provide a clue that it is actually an FAA
registration number.

Awh, come on Larry, you're being intentionally obtuse... grin

I failed to notice in your articles posted to rec.aviation.piloting
any reference to the fact that you own a small sized aircraft. Are
you able to provide a citation where that information is readily
apparent?

Google search will show that it is an AA5A... You might even find a
link to a photo of it...
Since I move around a bit, some of those links might not be active
anymore... here's a link that is valid right now...
http://s-h-c.frwh.net/Misc-Images/n581-nm.jpg

PS: I have used my correct e-mail address on Usenet since first
posting articles in 1985. I choose not to grant the e-mail harvesting
'bots the power to coerce me into intentionally introducing errors in
my e-mail address.

I was getting a lot of virus emails at one time, so I started
obfuscating my email address slightly... At one time, I was changing
it monthly just to **** with the email harvesters... I would use an
address like so that the year and month
was specified in the email address... It was especially good for when
I had to sign up for something which I didn't want return spam...

Mike Shelley
(Replace ### with my tail number to reply)
319-295-9453 (office)
3191 9th St., #6
Marion, IA 52302

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:31:36 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote:

Here's the header:

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From: "Grumman-581"
^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.piloting
References: 52N1e.113072$Ze3.13657@attbi_s51

Subject: Theft From Baggage-Continental
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Organization: Replace ### with my tail number to reply
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
(...)

I see neither Mr. Grumman's (valid) e-mail address nor tail number
there. Can you point either of them out for me?

only if you don't read Grumman-581 not as (part of) his tailnumber (N-581).


#m
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It's not like I'm a terrorist or a hair dresser or anything.
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