JPI Data Encryption?

Frank Stutzman writes:

Newps wrote:

JPI is getting absolutely killed on the Cessna Pilots Assoc website
message boards because of their anti customer positions. Hard to
believe they could be so stupid.

None too popular on the Bonanza owners list, either.

Or the Mooney list.

-jav

"Javier Henderson" wrote in message
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Frank Stutzman writes:

Newps wrote:

JPI is getting absolutely killed on the Cessna Pilots Assoc website
message boards because of their anti customer positions. Hard to
believe they could be so stupid.

None too popular on the Bonanza owners list, either.

Or the Mooney list.


Sigh!!! Corporate suicide.

Evidently many companies don't realize that they can't hide their
stupidity/arrogance like they used to.


Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

"Javier Henderson" wrote in message
...
Frank Stutzman writes:

Newps wrote:

JPI is getting absolutely killed on the Cessna Pilots Assoc website
message boards because of their anti customer positions. Hard to
believe they could be so stupid.

None too popular on the Bonanza owners list, either.

Or the Mooney list.

So, don't upgrade the software? I have a JPI-700 (never registered it, if
I'm supposed to...it came with my plane) and don't really see anything that
would encourage me to change it.

In almost five years I'm had it, I've downloaded data to it only once.

Matt Barrow wrote:

So, don't upgrade the software? I have a JPI-700 (never registered
it, if
I'm supposed to...it came with my plane) and don't really see
anything that
would encourage me to change it.

In almost five years I'm had it, I've downloaded data to it only
once.

That'll work fine as long as JPI never touches your JPI-700. At
Sun-n-fun, a Piper list member was told that all new monitors and any
old ones that come in for service will have their firmware upgraded and
will no longer work with older versions of the program (that allow you
to convert the data).


John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

Matt Barrow wrote:

So, don't upgrade the software? I have a JPI-700 (never registered it, if
I'm supposed to...it came with my plane) and don't really see anything that
would encourage me to change it.

Better hope that nothing breaks on it. Send it back to them for a repair
of *any kind* and you are going to get updated firmware.

In almost five years I'm had it, I've downloaded data to it only once.

To each his own. I make sure that every one of my flights gets download.
I figure if an when I ever sell my plane (HA!) and the prospective buyer
asks how the engine is, I'll hand him a cdrom and tell he can review every
hour of operation since overhaul.



--
Frank Stutzman
Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
Hood River, OR

Does anyone have an example of an old file and a new file so that bitheads
like me can take a look at the raw data and see if a simple conversion
algorithm is possible?

"Frank Stutzman" wrote in message
...
Matt Barrow wrote:

So, don't upgrade the software? I have a JPI-700 (never registered it, if
I'm supposed to...it came with my plane) and don't really see anything
that
would encourage me to change it.

Better hope that nothing breaks on it. Send it back to them for a repair
of *any kind* and you are going to get updated firmware.

In almost five years I'm had it, I've downloaded data to it only once.

To each his own. I make sure that every one of my flights gets download.
I figure if an when I ever sell my plane (HA!) and the prospective buyer
asks how the engine is, I'll hand him a cdrom and tell he can review every
hour of operation since overhaul.



--
Frank Stutzman
Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
Hood River, OR

Ronco;
Contact John Deakin or George Braly for this.

On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:14:40 -0400, "Juan Jimenez"
wrote:

Does anyone have an example of an old file and a new file so that bitheads
like me can take a look at the raw data and see if a simple conversion
algorithm is possible?

"Frank Stutzman" wrote in message
...
Matt Barrow wrote:

So, don't upgrade the software? I have a JPI-700 (never registered it, if
I'm supposed to...it came with my plane) and don't really see anything
that
would encourage me to change it.

Better hope that nothing breaks on it. Send it back to them for a repair
of *any kind* and you are going to get updated firmware.

In almost five years I'm had it, I've downloaded data to it only once.

To each his own. I make sure that every one of my flights gets download.
I figure if an when I ever sell my plane (HA!) and the prospective buyer
asks how the engine is, I'll hand him a cdrom and tell he can review every
hour of operation since overhaul.



--
Frank Stutzman
Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
Hood River, OR

Also, might be a good subject for a blurb in ANN!

On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:14:40 -0400, "Juan Jimenez"
wrote:

Does anyone have an example of an old file and a new file so that bitheads
like me can take a look at the raw data and see if a simple conversion
algorithm is possible?

"Frank Stutzman" wrote in message
...
Matt Barrow wrote:

So, don't upgrade the software? I have a JPI-700 (never registered it, if
I'm supposed to...it came with my plane) and don't really see anything
that
would encourage me to change it.

Better hope that nothing breaks on it. Send it back to them for a repair
of *any kind* and you are going to get updated firmware.

In almost five years I'm had it, I've downloaded data to it only once.

To each his own. I make sure that every one of my flights gets download.
I figure if an when I ever sell my plane (HA!) and the prospective buyer
asks how the engine is, I'll hand him a cdrom and tell he can review every
hour of operation since overhaul.



--
Frank Stutzman
Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
Hood River, OR

Jon A. writes:

Also, might be a good subject for a blurb in ANN!

'twould be nice if such a blurb pointed out that JPI clearly demonstrated
contempt for its (potential!) customers well before this happened and
that anyone who chose to buy JPI anyway should have expected something
like this to happen.

--kyler

It's a good tool to use if you can interpret it. I think a major
problem is that if you return the unit for repair, you get the new
software, regardless of your wishes. Sure hacks a lot of people off.

I wonder if the JPI folks are really aware they're ****ing so many
off! Anyone have any insight out there?



On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:44:50 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:

"Javier Henderson" wrote in message
...
Frank Stutzman writes:

Newps wrote:

JPI is getting absolutely killed on the Cessna Pilots Assoc website
message boards because of their anti customer positions. Hard to
believe they could be so stupid.

None too popular on the Bonanza owners list, either.

Or the Mooney list.

So, don't upgrade the software? I have a JPI-700 (never registered it, if
I'm supposed to...it came with my plane) and don't really see anything that
would encourage me to change it.

In almost five years I'm had it, I've downloaded data to it only once.