It was really close...

What really amazes me is that there will apparently be no certificate
action taken against these two nimrods.

Why do you say that?

I would expect at least a suspension.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Not so sure. Remember that guy in the Mooney that flew over LaGuardia
airport, down the East River in New York City, finally told on the radio of
his error, then decides to take a little spin around the Statue of Liberty
for some sightseeing while a helicopter was awaiting a few miles south to
escort him?

Well, he's still flying and was flying within a week after this happened.
Unless someone knows something specific my anecdotal evidence shows that a
front-page news grabber screw-up does not guarantee certificate action.

Marco

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:QH0he.76190$NU4.65923@attbi_s22...
What really amazes me is that there will apparently be no certificate
action taken against these two nimrods.

Why do you say that?

I would expect at least a suspension.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"





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"Marco Leon" mmleon(at)yahoo.com wrote:

Well, he's still flying and was flying within a week after this happened.
Unless someone knows something specific my anecdotal evidence shows that a
front-page news grabber screw-up does not guarantee certificate action.

I'm glad that the news coverage will have no impact on the penalty; why
should it? But the TSA has been mandating 30 day suspensions for ADIZ
violations. Even if the FAA wanted to resist this (not that there's any
reason to do so), they can do nothing for the TSA but ask "how far over do
you want me to bend?"

The one wildcard in this is the NASA form. But I'm sure that issue already
arisen, as *some* previous ADIZ violators must have completed one. I just
don't know the outcome.

In the case of the NYC tourist, he "only" violated class B airspace. That's
a dramatically different thing from violating the useless ADIZ, at least in
the minds of those hunkering down.

I *am* surprised that he was flying again w/in a week, but I've no idea what
other circumstances surrounded that. Perhaps he NASA-formed his way out.
Perhaps he was given a remedial checkride instead of a suspension? I
simply don't know.

- Andrew

"Marco Leon" mmleon(at)yahoo.com wrote in message ...

front-page news grabber screw-up does not guarantee certificate action.

Marco



Actually, it is pretty amazing how little coverage this has had here in Michigan. You have to really dig to find
anything about it...

Blueskies wrote:

Actually, it is pretty amazing how little coverage this has had here in Michigan. You have to really dig to find
anything about it...

It may be just me, but I think that's encouraging.

George Patterson
"Naked" means you ain't got no clothes on; "nekkid" means you ain't got
no clothes on - and are up to somethin'.