Flight Following

In a previous article, Matt Whiting said:
Arnold Sten wrote:
In addition to the above, using Flight Following means that you are in
direct contact with ATC should you develop some sort of in-flight
emergency. You can therefore communicate that difficulty immediately
without having to search for the available and appropriate controlling
agency.

The appropriate response in an emergency is to dial up 121.5 and not
worry about who answers. :-)

The appropriate response to an emergency is to talk to the person who
you're already talking to, because they already have a decent idea where
you are and where you're going and what type of plane you're in.

And if you were to croak and your non-pilot passenger had to take over, it
would be a lot easier for them if they didn't have to turn any dials.

--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
It's not hard, it's just asking for a visit by the ****up fairy.
-- Peter da Silva

Paul Tomblin wrote:

The appropriate response to an emergency is to talk to the person who
you're already talking to, because they already have a decent idea where
you are and where you're going and what type of plane you're in.

I've gotta agree there. 121.5 is for when you're not talking to
someone and don't immediately know who is the best contact. At times
when I'm not getting flight following, I stay tuned to the appropriate
Center or Approach frequency for the area in which I'm flying. Even if
I happen too be to low for ATC to hear me (quite common in the
mountains), I know that there are airliners overhead that will hear me.
If I need help, it's just a button push away.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

John Galban wrote:


Paul Tomblin wrote:

The appropriate response to an emergency is to talk to the person who
you're already talking to, because they already have a decent idea where
you are and where you're going and what type of plane you're in.


I've gotta agree there. 121.5 is for when you're not talking to
someone and don't immediately know who is the best contact. At times
when I'm not getting flight following, I stay tuned to the appropriate
Center or Approach frequency for the area in which I'm flying. Even if
I happen too be to low for ATC to hear me (quite common in the
mountains), I know that there are airliners overhead that will hear me.
If I need help, it's just a button push away.

Which was exactly the context in which I gave the response about 121.5.
I can't help that Paul gave an answer that was completely out of context.


Matt

In a previous article, Matt Whiting said:
Which was exactly the context in which I gave the response about 121.5.
I can't help that Paul gave an answer that was completely out of context.

"Completely out of context"? What sort of drugs are you on? You
contradicted somebody who was saying that an advantage of flight following
is that you're already talking to somebody in the event of emergency to
say that the correct thing to do in an emergency is to "dial in 121.5".


--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
"Real Programmers don't use Python."
"Real Programmers don't use *whitespace*."
-- Skud and Thorfinn

Paul Tomblin wrote:
In a previous article, Matt Whiting said:

Which was exactly the context in which I gave the response about 121.5.
I can't help that Paul gave an answer that was completely out of context.


"Completely out of context"? What sort of drugs are you on? You
contradicted somebody who was saying that an advantage of flight following
is that you're already talking to somebody in the event of emergency to
say that the correct thing to do in an emergency is to "dial in 121.5".

Yes, here is the text to which I responded:

"In addition to the above, using Flight Following means that you are in
direct contact with ATC should you develop some sort of in-flight
emergency. You can therefore communicate that difficulty immediately
without having to search for the available and appropriate controlling
agency."

The suggestion is clearly made that if you AREN'T using flight following
then your alternative is to "search for the available and appropriate
conrolling agency" to call. My comment is that if you AREN'T using
flight following, you have a much better alternative to trying to look
up a frequency for the ATC in your area - and that is to dial up 121.5.

This really isn't that hard to follow.


Matt

In a previous article, Matt Whiting said:
Paul Tomblin wrote:
In a previous article, Matt Whiting said:

Which was exactly the context in which I gave the response about 121.5.
I can't help that Paul gave an answer that was completely out of context.
"Completely out of context"? What sort of drugs are you on? You
contradicted somebody who was saying that an advantage of flight following
is that you're already talking to somebody in the event of emergency to
say that the correct thing to do in an emergency is to "dial in 121.5".
conrolling agency" to call. My comment is that if you AREN'T using
flight following, you have a much better alternative to trying to look
up a frequency for the ATC in your area - and that is to dial up 121.5.

You didn't say "if you aren't using flight following", you said "the
correct response in an emergency". Which, unless you've redefined the
english language when I wans't looking, means "an emergency", not "an
emergency when you aren't getting flight following".

Say what you mean, or don't complain if people correct you.

--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
"If you get upset, emotional, or angry you are not dealing with the
emergency"
-- Rick Grant (quoting RCAF pilot training)

Paul Tomblin wrote:

In a previous article, Matt Whiting said:

Paul Tomblin wrote:

In a previous article, Matt Whiting said:


Which was exactly the context in which I gave the response about 121.5.
I can't help that Paul gave an answer that was completely out of context.

"Completely out of context"? What sort of drugs are you on? You
contradicted somebody who was saying that an advantage of flight following
is that you're already talking to somebody in the event of emergency to
say that the correct thing to do in an emergency is to "dial in 121.5".

conrolling agency" to call. My comment is that if you AREN'T using
flight following, you have a much better alternative to trying to look
up a frequency for the ATC in your area - and that is to dial up 121.5.


You didn't say "if you aren't using flight following", you said "the
correct response in an emergency". Which, unless you've redefined the
english language when I wans't looking, means "an emergency", not "an
emergency when you aren't getting flight following".

Say what you mean, or don't complain if people correct you.


Sorry, it was pretty obvious ... at least to me and most everyone else.
I'll try to be more explicit next time so that you can understand as well.

Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Yes, here is the text to which I responded:

"In addition to the above, using Flight Following means that you are in
direct contact with ATC should you develop some sort of in-flight
emergency. You can therefore communicate that difficulty immediately
without having to search for the available and appropriate controlling
agency."

The suggestion is clearly made that if you AREN'T using flight following
then your alternative is to "search for the available and appropriate
conrolling agency" to call. My comment is that if you AREN'T using flight
following, you have a much better alternative to trying to look up a
frequency for the ATC in your area - and that is to dial up 121.5.

This really isn't that hard to follow.


And yet you were unable to follow it.

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Which was exactly the context in which I gave the response about 121.5. I
can't help that Paul gave an answer that was completely out of context.


No it wasn't. The context in which you gave the response about 121.5 was
one in which the pilot was receiving flight following.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...

Which was exactly the context in which I gave the response about 121.5. I
can't help that Paul gave an answer that was completely out of context.



No it wasn't. The context in which you gave the response about 121.5 was
one in which the pilot was receiving flight following.



No, read it again.

Matt