Cable break recovery spin entry... as previously discussed

At 20:30 02 July 2005, F.L. Whiteley wrote:
Speaking of over the top.

Slingby Swallow takes winch launch to 1100agl.
Rolls inverted.
Dives out.
Loops.
Chandelles.
Lands.

You had to be there.

Frank

Pilot by the name of Doug Ross, No 2 GC UK? Before
they put the elevator stops on to prevent you doing
it. Spoilsports.

Don Johnstone wrote:

At 20:30 02 July 2005, F.L. Whiteley wrote:
Speaking of over the top.

Slingby Swallow takes winch launch to 1100agl.
Rolls inverted.
Dives out.
Loops.
Chandelles.
Lands.

You had to be there.

Frank

Pilot by the name of Doug Ross, No 2 GC UK? Before
they put the elevator stops on to prevent you doing
it. Spoilsports.

No, the inimitable Mick Boyden.

The tricky bit is that twist is such that all the flying load is on the tips
while inverted. Gotta hope for good glue and no bumps.

Ahhh, stepped into a hornet's nest here? The thought came to me after
seeing the rather lengthy
tales in the beginning of this thread. I am against yanking the stick
forward and then back, hard or fully. So the thought of mostly rudder
work, like entering or coming out of a spin or half a spin came to me.
Naturally one would not teach that, but on the other hand, some of you
might have a "Hammerhead " demonstrated to you, or take some Acro
instruction? Edward aparently understood what I was thinking. He is
right, one would come out of that half spin recovery too fast which
would not work on a tight airfield.

What Frank saw after the loop and before the landing with that Swallow
might have been a hammerhead rather than a Chandelle, which would have
taken too long. Spin entry is faster. Of course, the Swallow is a very
light aircraft and can do those manouvers much slower than the glass
slippers.

In the late 50s a former Luftwaffe Pilot named Karlie Marsen did Acro
work out of a winch launch regularly at Flugplatzfests same what Frank
saw,.. in a Lo 100.......He was a skier too!

Soarski