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It was unauthorized the guy stole the gas. He should get credited back.

Well, yes and no.

He authorized a purchase of up to "x" amount at the pump. He then filled
his plane to "y" amount, leaving the remainder of "x" as an authorized
purchase. The next guy used up his authorized purchase, if I'm following
this thread correctly.

No credit card company is going to be able to discern the difference between
what he did, and what he *meant* to do. He goofed, and someone filled up
using his remaining credit. They may not even realize it, yet.

Worse yet, if the credit card company DOES credit him back, they will charge
back the merchant automatically. Then the FBO is out the money, which
helps no one.

Credit card companies cannot (and will not) ever lose. They represent the
worst in our economy, ranking right behind insurance and liability issues as
one of the three biggest detriments to economic growth.

IMHO, of course!

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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It was unauthorized the guy stole the gas. He should get credited back.


Credit card companies cannot (and will not) ever lose. They represent
the
worst in our economy, ranking right behind insurance and liability issues
as
one of the three biggest detriments to economic growth.

They are middlemen between the customer and the merchant and not really a
party to the transaction, merely a facilitator. Why should they be liable
unless they screwed it up somehow?

The fellow in this case failed to closed the pump. In the same way if he
left his wallet full of cash around, he was grossly negligent.

Too bad, but the fellow needs to grow and an accept responsibility for his
actions. Or it that passe in America anymore?


IMHO, of course!

I gotta opinion 'fer ya right here!!

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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The fellow in this case failed to closed the pump. In the same way if he
left his wallet full of cash around, he was grossly negligent.

Too bad, but the fellow needs to grow and an accept responsibility for his
actions. Or it that passe in America anymore?


IMHO, of course!

I gotta opinion 'fer ya right here!!


You are right but there were two wrongs here. Failure to properly end the
transaction was the first one. The second was the person who took advantage
of the situation to make off with the "free" gas. That was like finding the
wallet full of cash and not trying to return it intact to it's rightful
owner. Responsibility and morality are on the decline everywhere you look.

IMHO

Allen

"Allen" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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The fellow in this case failed to closed the pump. In the same way if he
left his wallet full of cash around, he was grossly negligent.

Too bad, but the fellow needs to grow and an accept responsibility for
his
actions. Or it that passe in America anymore?


You are right but there were two wrongs here. Failure to properly end the
transaction was the first one. The second was the person who took
advantage
of the situation to make off with the "free" gas. That was like finding
the
wallet full of cash and not trying to return it intact to it's rightful
owner. Responsibility and morality are on the decline everywhere you
look.

And that's something new? Let me give you some insight in to the last 10,000
years...

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"Allen" wrote in message
...

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
...

The fellow in this case failed to closed the pump. In the same way if
he
left his wallet full of cash around, he was grossly negligent.

Too bad, but the fellow needs to grow and an accept responsibility for
his
actions. Or it that passe in America anymore?


You are right but there were two wrongs here. Failure to properly end
the
transaction was the first one. The second was the person who took
advantage
of the situation to make off with the "free" gas. That was like finding
the
wallet full of cash and not trying to return it intact to it's rightful
owner. Responsibility and morality are on the decline everywhere you
look.

And that's something new? Let me give you some insight in to the last
10,000
years...



You are the own asking if responsibility is passe in America now. Same
shoe, other foot.

Allen

"Allen" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"Allen" wrote in message
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wallet full of cash and not trying to return it intact to it's rightful
owner. Responsibility and morality are on the decline everywhere you
look.

And that's something new? Let me give you some insight in to the last
10,000
years...



You are the own asking if responsibility is passe in America now. Same
shoe, other foot.

Pardon? (Evidently grammar and sentence structure is passé, too).

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
...

"Allen" wrote in message
...

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
...

"Allen" wrote in message
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wallet full of cash and not trying to return it intact to it's
rightful
owner. Responsibility and morality are on the decline everywhere you
look.

And that's something new? Let me give you some insight in to the last
10,000
years...



You are the own asking if responsibility is passe in America now. Same
shoe, other foot.

Pardon? (Evidently grammar and sentence structure is passé, too).


Stupid autocorrect, you know exactly what I meant.

Too bad, but the fellow needs to grow and an accept responsibility for his
actions. Or it that passe in America anymore?

Hey Jay, I didn't start this thread to blame anybody. Just posted it
requesting the guy to contact me to straighten this out. There are some
honest people. Some will even return a wallet full of money to the
owner. Is honesty passe in America?

"abripl" wrote in message
oups.com...
Too bad, but the fellow needs to grow and an accept responsibility for
his
actions. Or it that passe in America anymore?

Hey Jay, I didn't start this thread to blame anybody. Just posted it
requesting the guy to contact me to straighten this out. There are some
honest people. Some will even return a wallet full of money to the
owner. Is honesty passe in America?

I can understand your point, but in a nation of a million pilots it seems
"silly" to post to a group that has maybe 100 participants.

This is what's called a "long shot" in the extreme.

"abripl" wrote in message
oups.com...
Too bad, but the fellow needs to grow and an accept responsibility for
his
actions. Or it that passe in America anymore?

Hey Jay, I didn't start this thread to blame anybody. Just posted it
requesting the guy to contact me to straighten this out. There are some
honest people. Some will even return a wallet full of money to the
owner. Is honesty passe in America?

Not to confuse the issue even more, but I didn't say those two sentences
that you are apparently attributing to me.

I'm not blaming anyone, either. It's just a damned shame of a situation.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"