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Old August 10th 05, 06:40 AM
Morgans
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"W P Dixon" wrote in message
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Yep and the same for the 87 knot endorsement rule Jim


Refresh my memory, please. I have slept several times since that came up.
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Old August 10th 05, 03:35 PM
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Hee Hee,
I know where you are coming from. Well as most people know, a sport pilot
may train in pretty much any single engine aircraft if it meets the category
or not. But solos and the check ride must be done in a "sport" category
aircraft.
When you get down into all the little sub sections of the rules it goes
on to say that only a certificated sport pilot can get training and get
signed off for the 87 knot endorsement. So you have one rule saying you can
fly a Cherokee and the other rule saying you can't until you are already a
sport pilot.
The EAA says they are working on the wording as it has caused some
confusion. One of those that was very confused is the AOPA (did not have a
clue). And the FAA fellow told me," Welcome to the FAR's!"
From all I have heard from the powers that be it is supposed to be where
you can get the endorsement during your training, just like a taildragger or
controlled airspace endorsement. Just the wording got "messed" up.
So for now, some CFI's are giving the endorsement as it was intended by
the rules, and some are afraid to by the conflict of the term certificated
sport pilot. AHHH Red tape ya just gotta love it!

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"Morgans" wrote in message
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"W P Dixon" wrote in message
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Yep and the same for the 87 knot endorsement rule Jim


Refresh my memory, please. I have slept several times since that came up.
;-)
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Jim in NC


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Old August 11th 05, 03:53 AM
Morgans
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"W P Dixon" wrote

When you get down into all the little sub sections of the rules it

goes
on to say that only a certificated sport pilot can get training and get
signed off for the 87 knot endorsement.


Sorry, but you still didn't say what the 87 knot endorsement rule is.
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Old August 11th 05, 04:27 AM
W P Dixon
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OK,
To sum it up,....before a sport pilot can operate a fixed wing aircraft
that cruises 87 knots or more he must have ground and flight training and
recieve an endorsement. The rule regarding this endorsement specifically
states a certificated sport pilot can get this endorsement.
So you have one rule saying a sport pilot can train in the same aircraft
that the other rule says he can't until after he is a "sport pilot". It's
causing as much confusion as the retracts on seaplanes, if not more just
because alot of us(me included) have already been flying aircraft that
cruise at or more than 87 knots. Some CFI's are giving the endorsement
during training , others just are not sure what the heck to do.

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"Morgans" wrote in message
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"W P Dixon" wrote

When you get down into all the little sub sections of the rules it

goes
on to say that only a certificated sport pilot can get training and get
signed off for the 87 knot endorsement.


Sorry, but you still didn't say what the 87 knot endorsement rule is.
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Jim in NC


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Old August 12th 05, 04:58 AM
Morgans
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"W P Dixon" wrote

The rule regarding this endorsement specifically
states a certificated sport pilot can get this endorsement.
So you have one rule saying a sport pilot can train in the same

aircraft
that the other rule says he can't until after he is a "sport pilot".


I hadn't heard of that one. Originally designed for the ultralight to SP
guys, I'll bet, but just as screwy as the amphib gear issue.

Thanks! (I think) g
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