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Old August 15th 05, 02:14 AM
Matt Whiting
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Viperdoc wrote:

The 210 taxied from the hangar next to the restaurant all of the way to the
far end of the runway, while the 152 simply taxied from the restaurant
directly onto 9 and departed.

As I recall, the 210 only announced his taxi prior to going down the runway,
while the 152 said Cessna xxx departing runway 9, Lone Rock.

They converged at approximately midfield, with the 152 taking evasive action
by doing a steep right turn to the south away from the runway at low
altitude, while the 210 climbed on runway heading and did not take any
obvious evasive action. The 210 did not announce his takeoff roll, but he
clearly was on the runway and visible from the far end (where we were parked
in front of the restaurant). It happened so fast and we hadn't powered up
yet, so couldn't even have given a warning call on the radio.


I agree that the 152 should have looked down the runway before
commencing his take-off roll, however, so should the 210 pilot. And if
the 210 pilot really didn't announce his intent to depart 27, then I'd
place the blame primarily on him/her.


Matt
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Old August 15th 05, 07:33 AM
Brien K. Meehan
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Neither pilot had an obligation to announce anything on the radio.

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Old August 15th 05, 12:38 PM
Viperdoc
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While neither pilot had any obligation to announce, if I had been in the 210
and somebody made a radio call saying they were departing off of the same
runway in the opposite direction it probably would have gotten my attention.


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Old August 16th 05, 01:47 AM
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Viperdoc wrote:

While neither pilot had any obligation to announce, if I had been in the 210
and somebody made a radio call saying they were departing off of the same
runway in the opposite direction it probably would have gotten my attention.



That's right, pilots aren't obligated to be smart. Fortunately, most of
us are, but there are a few really stupid ones out there that don't self
announce at uncontrolled fields. The sad part is that occasionally the
stupid pilots take down a smart pilot with them. Luckily, not in this case.


Matt
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Old August 16th 05, 02:10 AM
Dave Stadt
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Viperdoc wrote:

While neither pilot had any obligation to announce, if I had been in the

210
and somebody made a radio call saying they were departing off of the

same
runway in the opposite direction it probably would have gotten my

attention.



That's right, pilots aren't obligated to be smart. Fortunately, most of
us are, but there are a few really stupid ones out there that don't self
announce at uncontrolled fields. The sad part is that occasionally the
stupid pilots take down a smart pilot with them. Luckily, not in this

case.


Matt


Let's not forget the really, really stupid ones that yack on the radio but
don't know what the windows on their airplanes are for. Give me a stupid
one looking out the window over a smart one yacking but not looking any day.



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Old August 16th 05, 02:12 AM
Matt Whiting
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Dave Stadt wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Viperdoc wrote:


While neither pilot had any obligation to announce, if I had been in the


210

and somebody made a radio call saying they were departing off of the


same

runway in the opposite direction it probably would have gotten my


attention.


That's right, pilots aren't obligated to be smart. Fortunately, most of
us are, but there are a few really stupid ones out there that don't self
announce at uncontrolled fields. The sad part is that occasionally the
stupid pilots take down a smart pilot with them. Luckily, not in this


case.


Matt



Let's not forget the really, really stupid ones that yack on the radio but
don't know what the windows on their airplanes are for. Give me a stupid
one looking out the window over a smart one yacking but not looking any day.


Yes, that is equally stupid. No reason not to do both, assuming you
have a radio. If you don't, then I'll accept that as an excuse! :-)

Matt
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Old August 16th 05, 02:48 AM
Sylvain
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Dave Stadt wrote:

Let's not forget the really, really stupid ones that yack on the radio but
don't know what the windows on their airplanes are for. Give me a stupid
one looking out the window over a smart one yacking but not looking any day.


....or the ones who religiously announce their position in a
calm and professional sounding voice, which would be real
nice, except for them being nowhere near what they announced! :-)

--Sylvain
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Old August 15th 05, 01:57 PM
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Neither pilot had an obligation to announce anything on the radio.

Pilots aren't obligated by FAR to breathe, either -- but it's highly
recommended.

;-)
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old August 15th 05, 09:25 PM
Sylvain
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Jay Honeck wrote:
Pilots aren't obligated by FAR to breathe, either -- but it's highly
recommended.


well, there are a thing or two about being physically fit
(14 CFR 67) and I am pretty sure that being alive is implied
even for sport pilots :-)

--Sylvain
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Old August 15th 05, 09:33 PM
W P Dixon
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Nope don't even have a pulse!!!!

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"Sylvain" wrote in message
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Jay Honeck wrote:
Pilots aren't obligated by FAR to breathe, either -- but it's highly
recommended.


well, there are a thing or two about being physically fit
(14 CFR 67) and I am pretty sure that being alive is implied
even for sport pilots :-)

--Sylvain


 




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