More Katrina

"N93332" wrote in message
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"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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Local Channel 5 is flying its Robinson 44 helicopter up and down the
coast, sending back video.

Holy ****.

This is far worse than we were being told even this morning. Whole
sections of Biloxi are leveled. Multi-story casinos have been driven all
the way across Hwy 90 and into neighborhoods. It looks like the city has
been carpet bombed.

Hancock County, to the west of Biloxi, is expected to be *worse*! How
that could be possible, I do not know.

And New Orleans is leaking and being looted.

This is awful beyond the wildest nightmare.

And now Dubya says he's going to cut his vacation short to go and view the
damage. That's all they need, a TFR to shut down all the helicopter rescue
operations...


Hey Knee-Jerk. There is already 3 TFRs in the area and when has a President
not visited a disaster site?

"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
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And now Dubya says he's going to cut his vacation short to go and view
the damage. That's all they need, a TFR to shut down all the helicopter
rescue operations...


Hey Knee-Jerk. There is already 3 TFRs in the area and when has a
President not visited a disaster site?

If you read my response, you'll note that I made the mistake of
misunderstanding the NBC news report saying that Mr. Bush was going from his
vacation in Texas directly to the hurricane damage area. After posting that
response, I checked some news websites to find out that Mr. Bush isn't going
right away.

I do expect a president of either party to make a visit, just not
'immediately'. I apologize for the previous response...

-Greg B.

Listening to CNN, they are commenting on how Bush-1 was criticized for
not going to Florida following Andrew.
It seems like W's handlers are working hard to not let their boy be
acquised of making the same mistake.
The parallels are amusing.
If it's not one thing (Iraq) it's another (hurricane damage).
To borrow (loosely) from GM, "This is not your daddy's Oldsmobile."
:-))

"john smith" wrote in message . ..
Listening to CNN, they are commenting on how Bush-1 was criticized for not going to Florida following Andrew.
It seems like W's handlers are working hard to not let their boy be acquised of making the same mistake.
The parallels are amusing.
If it's not one thing (Iraq) it's another (hurricane damage).
To borrow (loosely) from GM, "This is not your daddy's Oldsmobile."
:-))

oh well, back to piloting...

I would be pretty cool to buzz the beach with a 747 (Bush did it today)

back OT

I can't imagine what those folks on the ground thought; look, there goes AF1, I wonder if he has any fresh water? Is
that thing air-conditioned? Maybe they'll drop some food?

Blueskies wrote:
"john smith" wrote in message . ..

I would be pretty cool to buzz the beach with a 747 (Bush did it today)

back OT

I can't imagine what those folks on the ground thought; look, there goes AF1, I wonder if he has any fresh water? Is
that thing air-conditioned? Maybe they'll drop some food?

One person I saw interviewed on the news said it was a sign of hope for
them that "they know what's happening here." If the President is flying
over, then surely help can't be too far away.

AF1 is probably one of the most potent icons of the American nation out
there. No matter where you are in the world, when people hear a plane
and look up, and realize that it's AF1, everything stops. She's a
symbol not of her individual passengers with all their well-documented
flaws, but of the Presidency as an institution. How many times has a
blue-and-white bird been the backdrop of an indelible image?

-cwk.

I'll never forget my thoughts as I watched Air Force 1, with former
President Clinton aboard, as it "held short" for about five minutes at
Andrews, right after President Bush was sworn in.

I had an intense mental image of two guys in the cockpit trying to plug that
GPSMAP 12 into the cigarette lighter, and jiggling the the eight power cords
velcroed to the panel to see which one wasn't plugged in right.

Les


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Blueskies wrote:
"john smith" wrote in message
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I would be pretty cool to buzz the beach with a 747 (Bush did it today)

back OT

I can't imagine what those folks on the ground thought; look, there goes
AF1, I wonder if he has any fresh water? Is
that thing air-conditioned? Maybe they'll drop some food?

One person I saw interviewed on the news said it was a sign of hope for
them that "they know what's happening here." If the President is flying
over, then surely help can't be too far away.

AF1 is probably one of the most potent icons of the American nation out
there. No matter where you are in the world, when people hear a plane
and look up, and realize that it's AF1, everything stops. She's a
symbol not of her individual passengers with all their well-documented
flaws, but of the Presidency as an institution. How many times has a
blue-and-white bird been the backdrop of an indelible image?

-cwk.

LWG wrote:
I'll never forget my thoughts as I watched Air Force 1, with former
President Clinton aboard, as it "held short" for about five minutes at
Andrews, right after President Bush was sworn in.

I had an intense mental image of two guys in the cockpit trying to
plug that GPSMAP 12 into the cigarette lighter, and jiggling the the
eight power cords velcroed to the panel to see which one wasn't
plugged in right.

THAT was funny.

("john smith" wrote)
Listening to CNN, they are commenting on how Bush-1 was criticized for not
going to Florida following Andrew.
It seems like W's handlers are working hard to not let their boy be
acquised of making the same mistake.


(ramblings...)

Remember the (1990's) Clinton flap over FEMA aid not going to Republican
stronghold disaster areas?

Democratic areas would have a small hailstorm roll through their area, and
suddenly, Federal Disaster Relief money would start raining down from the
heavens. Republican districts would need an F-5 tornado parking itself over
their town, for a week, before they were allowed to apply for help from
Washington. :-)

I'm wondering why the levees broke?? Grand Forks, ND (1997) sure, they got
nailed by floodwaters, then fire. Tough break. N.O. (2005) ...your city is
below sea level people!! Those levees should have been ...oh, never mind.
:-(

Salt Lake City (1999) medium size tornado makes a direct hit on Downtown -
No Looting.

People across the city stopped what they were doing and cleaned up the
mess - until the job was done - then resumed what they were doing. No
comparing the two natural disasters, but no comparing the preparedness of
the two local governments, and reaction of the citizens either.

CBS news (Tuesday) said people were looting out of a need to survive. It had
only been 18 hours folks!! CBS news is banned from this house for the rest
of the year.

GTW, Margene knows I mean business with my TV news station bans - I've been
"double secret probation" banning different outlets for over a decade. ABC
(A for arrogant) news was banned from our home for 6 months, after their
9-11 carping about W 'hiding' and not being back in Washington that first
afternoon. I didn't care if it was Clinton, Carter, Reagan, Ford, Nixon or W
....I wanted my President's butt up in Air Force One that day!!

Our local FOX outlet gets turned off, mid story, at least twice a week.

W needs to make a Marine One fly-over - that's it. Back in Washington he
needs to "go" up to The Hill and meet in the offices of the Senators and
Congresspeople of that region - photo ops all around are ok. Then he needs
to have them all over for a morning prayer breakfast and more photo ops in
the White House.

Send First Lady Laura Bush to the Gulf Coast...and Cheney, if anyone knows
where he is. He can tour the damaged oil rigs.

'43' should hold off making his entrance for 3 more days.


Montblack

Montblack wrote:
Salt Lake City (1999) medium size tornado makes a direct hit on Downtown -
No Looting.

People across the city stopped what they were doing and cleaned up the
mess - until the job was done - then resumed what they were doing. No
comparing the two natural disasters, but no comparing the preparedness of
the two local governments, and reaction of the citizens either.

You were right with the comment that there's no comparing the disasters
- so why are you trying to do just that? I've been through a pretty
bad tornado. Our house was lifted off the foundation and dropped on
our neighbor's lot which was empty since their house was now down the
block a little farther. Most houses on our side of the street were
left in other lots. But the neighbors just across the street suffered
no damage at all. Police and other emergency services could quickly
deal with the situation since it covered a limited area. But they
still set up roadblocks manned by police and National Guard units who
only let in residents with proper IDs specifically to prevent looting.
And this was in a small midwest town in the supposedly law-abiding
'50s.
The devastation in New Orleans and surrounding coastal areas is on a
completely different scale.

CBS news (Tuesday) said people were looting out of a need to survive. It had
only been 18 hours folks!! CBS news is banned from this house for the rest
of the year.

No excuse for those who were filling shopping carts with TVs and other
electronics. But there were quite a few people who barely escaped from
their flooded dwellings and found themselves without food or water. I
can't see fault with them if they grab some bottled water and food. 18
hours can be a long time to be without a source of potable water -
especially if there are any young children in the family.

"Montblack" wrote in message ...
snip Send First Lady Laura Bush to the Gulf Coast...and Cheney, if anyone knows where he is. He can tour the damaged
oil rigs.

Montblack


Didja hear what Laura said? Something like "Why those kids need to get back in school", to which the reply was "The
schools are gone, maam."