Runway Numbering - Radio Procedure

"Mike W." wrote in message
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If you hear 'runway zero', then you know you have missed something in the
transmission.


Two things, actually, the runway and the airport.

If you hear 'runway zero', then you know you have missed something in the
transmission.
Two things, actually, the runway and the airport.


Yes, but missing the airport does not imply a transmission error. The
airport simply may not have been transmitted. Poor form, but not a data
error.

Jose
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Hi Jose. I like your checksum argument. It's two digits for me from now
on, and we should urge everyone to adopt this convention.

Hi Jose. I like your checksum argument. It's two digits for me from now
on, and we should urge everyone to adopt this convention.

It's actually somebody else's idea, though I recognized it as like a
checksum. However, "zero two" and "two zero" can be confused with each
other even when each is clearly heard.

You've all heard of the dyslexic agnostic insomniac? He stayed up all
night wondering if there really was a dog.

Jose
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Jose wrote:
Hi Jose. I like your checksum argument. It's two digits for me from now
on, and we should urge everyone to adopt this convention.


It's actually somebody else's idea, though I recognized it as like a
checksum. However, "zero two" and "two zero" can be confused with each
other even when each is clearly heard.

There is another pair: 13-31.

At least here, the combinations 02-20 and 13-31 are avoided
by naming the runway to the next available direction, so it
may be up to 10 degrees off course. An example is Mariehamn,
Aland Islands: the runway is 021/201 degrees, but the naming
is 03-21.

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"Joe Johnson" wrote in message
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Hi Jose. I like your checksum argument. It's two digits for me from now
on, and we should urge everyone to adopt this convention.


Except those operating at Kodiak, of course.

"Jose" wrote in message
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Yes, but missing the airport does not imply a transmission error. The
airport simply may not have been transmitted. Poor form, but not a data
error.


Not a data error? If the pilot doesn't identify the airport I may have to
ask him where he's going. If he does identify it and it's not the airport
I'm going to I can ignore him. The location is important data.

Not a data error? If the pilot doesn't identify the airport I may have to
ask him where he's going. If he does identify it and it's not the airport
I'm going to I can ignore him. The location is important data.

Correct. Not a data error (more precisely, not an indication that what
was understood is different from what was transmitted). It may well be
an error on the part of the person transmitting to omit the data, but
that's not the kind of error that pertains to "zero two".

Jose
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