More evidence of weak security at GA airports

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:08:16 -0500, "Skylune"
wrote:


Newps:
"Having a hard time finding an engine? Lamest excuse ever. What do you
expect is going to happen if you leave something valuable unattended for
five years?"

Well, I guess calling a disabled plane parked at an airport while awaiting
parts "unattended." Of course, I would take that to indicate there is
insufficient security, even though the EAA member/thief obviously had
acess to the facility. How in the heck can you steal an airplane engine
with no one noticing a thing??? And then cutting a hole in the fuelage to
steal the autopilot? This must have taken some time, and no one noticed???





Oh come on! If you park your car in your driveway, and someone breaks
into it and takes the radio, does that mean you have insufficient
security? I suppose if your standard for "sufficient" means that
nothing undesirable EVER happens, then yes, that's insufficient.

If, on the other hand, a case like this tends to make the news, then
that in itself might just point out that IT'S THE EXCEPTION!

Sheesh, how many cars were broken into last night? Stolen for
joyrides? How many homes? And is that making the headlines?

The reason this story is getting the coverage it is getting is because
it is an anomaly.

So perhaps what you can take from this is that GA security is so good
that when something like this actually happens it's so out of the
ordinary that it makes headlines. Yeah, sounds good to me.

Besides GA security just needs to be good enough for the airplane
owners at the airport to bo okay with it. What more is required?

Bill Strahan
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"Bill" wrote in message
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:08:16 -0500, "Skylune"
wrote:

Sheesh, how many cars were broken into last night? Stolen for
joyrides? How many homes? And is that making the headlines?


Ever seen COPS?

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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:55:10 -0500, "Darkwing"
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"Bill" wrote in message
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:08:16 -0500, "Skylune"
wrote:

Sheesh, how many cars were broken into last night? Stolen for
joyrides? How many homes? And is that making the headlines?


Ever seen COPS?

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DW


Yes. And your point is?

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Bill wrote:

Besides GA security just needs to be good enough for the airplane
owners at the airport to bo okay with it. What more is required?

For you, me and the pilots at the airport, that statement makes sense.
However, to those opposed to the airport or aviation, it is simply fuel for
their arguments.

"See? *ANY*body can steal a plane from Bupkiss Airport and use it for
terrorism!"

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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:13:28 -0500, "John T" wrote:

Bill wrote:

Besides GA security just needs to be good enough for the airplane
owners at the airport to bo okay with it. What more is required?

For you, me and the pilots at the airport, that statement makes sense.
However, to those opposed to the airport or aviation, it is simply fuel for
their arguments.

"See? *ANY*body can steal a plane from Bupkiss Airport and use it for
terrorism!"

And that's what we need to start addressing.

My standard response these days is

"Yeah, and they can steal radio control planes as well. And paper
planes. But the reason they stole big, giant, super-humongous,
freaking enormous airplanes is so they could use the fuel (the
majority of the energy by far!) to do damage. So I suppose they could
steal my plane and commit terrorism with it, but they'd be more
effective buidling a catapult that threw a 55 gallon drum of gasoline,
and that doesn't even require pilot training!"

"If the terrorists start using private planes for attacks on our
country, then we're on the downhill side of the war on terror because
they've all become morons."



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I agree let see if I remember correctly a couple Terrist Acts committed
with GA aircraft, The Head lines I remember a

1. Man Crashes airplane into White house Pilot killed, Wakes up those
sleeping inside..

2. Kid steals airplane crashes into skyscraper, Pilot killed, Windows
Broken.

I am sure we can find some more if we look...

GA has a great track record for Terrist attacks, Face It Ga Security
is just to make the Public Feel safer, it does very little to actually
make them safer. They were not in danger to begin with.

Brian

Brian wrote:

GA has a great track record for Terrist attacks, Face It Ga Security
is just to make the Public Feel safer, it does very little to actually
make them safer. They were not in danger to begin with.

First off, it's "terrorist". More importantly, there have been numerous
accidents over the years that have killed people on the ground; sometimes quite
a few. Although that doesn't hold a candle to what you can accomplish with a
loaded airliner and a skyscraper during business hours, it's not a non-issue either.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

In article lJA9f.10331$UW5.2381@trndny09, George Patterson
wrote:

GA has a great track record for Terrist attacks

First off, it's "terrorist".

If you're going to correct his grammar, you might want to check your
punctuation first.

beavis wrote:

If you're going to correct his grammar, you might want to check your
punctuation first.

Insert as desired .,"';:?

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

If #2 was in Tampa, wasn't the kid was working around the FBO for
lessons?

"Brian" wrote in message
oups.com...
I agree let see if I remember correctly a couple Terrist Acts committed
with GA aircraft, The Head lines I remember a

1. Man Crashes airplane into White house Pilot killed, Wakes up those
sleeping inside..

2. Kid steals airplane crashes into skyscraper, Pilot killed, Windows
Broken.

I am sure we can find some more if we look...

GA has a great track record for Terrist attacks, Face It Ga Security
is just to make the Public Feel safer, it does very little to actually
make them safer. They were not in danger to begin with.

Brian