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Old December 6th 05, 06:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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Unusually high nose attitudes in power on stalls are almost always the
result of an improper set up for doing the stall. This involves excessive
energy (airspeed) that has to be bled off, especially in airplanes with
fairly powerful engines.
There's no need for an excessively high nose attitude when doing a power
on stall.
Try slowing the airplane first by throttling on back while rotating in
pitch, right on down to normal climb speed, then continue to rotate in
pitch while applying climb power to a normal climb attitude . From there
simply continue to increase pitch smoothly on into critical angle of
attack where the stall will occur.
Dudley Henriques


How true...

After my first couple of attempts, my instructor (semi jokingly)
admonished me for attempting to perform a loop.


I saw Richard Petty try this at Telladega once, but the fence got in the
way and spoiled it for him.
:-)
D


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Old December 7th 05, 12:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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Unusually high nose attitudes in power on stalls are almost always the
result of an improper set up for doing the stall. This involves
excessive energy (airspeed) that has to be bled off, especially in
airplanes with fairly powerful engines.
There's no need for an excessively high nose attitude when doing a power
on stall.
Try slowing the airplane first by throttling on back while rotating in
pitch, right on down to normal climb speed, then continue to rotate in
pitch while applying climb power to a normal climb attitude . From there
simply continue to increase pitch smoothly on into critical angle of
attack where the stall will occur.
Dudley Henriques


How true...

After my first couple of attempts, my instructor (semi jokingly)
admonished me for attempting to perform a loop.


I saw Richard Petty try this at Telladega once, but the fence got in the
way and spoiled it for him.
:-)
D


LOL. I'd have to declare most of NASCAR's car-obatics closer to "Lomcvaks"
(Sp?) than anything else...

Couple of guys have done some pretty good axial rolls and the occassional
'Very Low Inverted Pass."

Jay B


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Old December 7th 05, 01:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
news:9Ajlf.20$6N2.14@fed1read06...
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
k.net...

Unusually high nose attitudes in power on stalls are almost always the
result of an improper set up for doing the stall. This involves
excessive energy (airspeed) that has to be bled off, especially in
airplanes with fairly powerful engines.
There's no need for an excessively high nose attitude when doing a
power on stall.
Try slowing the airplane first by throttling on back while rotating in
pitch, right on down to normal climb speed, then continue to rotate in
pitch while applying climb power to a normal climb attitude . From
there simply continue to increase pitch smoothly on into critical angle
of attack where the stall will occur.
Dudley Henriques


How true...

After my first couple of attempts, my instructor (semi jokingly)
admonished me for attempting to perform a loop.


I saw Richard Petty try this at Telladega once, but the fence got in the
way and spoiled it for him.
:-)
D


LOL. I'd have to declare most of NASCAR's car-obatics closer to
"Lomcvaks" (Sp?) than anything else...

Couple of guys have done some pretty good axial rolls and the occassional
'Very Low Inverted Pass."

Jay B


:-)
I had a sort of comedy routine I'd go through in the S2 Pitts while taxiing
out to enter a lesson with a student who was going to be doing his first
Lommy.
I'd describe it to him something like this on the intercom.
"Just give me a 45 degree up line with full power and let the airspeed drain
back to 80. Then give me full right rudder, full left aileron, and full
forward stick simultaneously. Shut your eyes cause it's gonna scare the
living s**t out of you, count 3 seconds and open 'um again. You'll have done
your first Lomcevak!!!
But don't go to sleep yet!!!!!!!
At second 4 we'll be learning all about inverted spin recovery".
:-)))
Dudley


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Old December 7th 05, 05:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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I had a sort of comedy routine I'd go through in the S2 Pitts while
taxiing out to enter a lesson with a student who was going to be doing his
first Lommy.
I'd describe it to him something like this on the intercom.
"Just give me a 45 degree up line with full power and let the airspeed
drain back to 80. Then give me full right rudder, full left aileron, and
full forward stick simultaneously. Shut your eyes cause it's gonna scare
the living s**t out of you, count 3 seconds and open 'um again. You'll
have done your first Lomcevak!!!
But don't go to sleep yet!!!!!!!
At second 4 we'll be learning all about inverted spin recovery".
:-)))
Dudley


Ah, "Bonus Maneuver" !! Nice!

Jay B


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Old December 7th 05, 04:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Jay Beckman" wrote

LOL. I'd have to declare most of NASCAR's car-obatics closer to

"Lomcvaks"
(Sp?) than anything else...

Couple of guys have done some pretty good axial rolls and the occassional
'Very Low Inverted Pass."


Yea, but they all bounced their landings! g
--
Jim in NC

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Old December 7th 05, 09:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Jay Beckman" wrote

LOL. I'd have to declare most of NASCAR's car-obatics closer to

"Lomcvaks"
(Sp?) than anything else...

Couple of guys have done some pretty good axial rolls and the occassional
'Very Low Inverted Pass."


Yea, but they all bounced their landings! g
--
Jim in NC

Gives new meaning to the old saw about "Any landing you can walk away
from..."

Jay B


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Old December 8th 05, 11:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Jay Beckman" wrote

Gives new meaning to the old saw about "Any landing you can walk away
from..."


Yeaah, but they were definitely not great landings, cause that equipment
will *never* be able to be used again! g
--
Jim in NC

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Old December 9th 05, 12:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Jay Beckman" wrote

Gives new meaning to the old saw about "Any landing you can walk away
from..."


Yeaah, but they were definitely not great landings, cause that equipment
will *never* be able to be used again! g
--
Jim in NC


Aw c'mon, you aren't giving the guys in the Fab shops any credit!!

They can make chicken salad out of chickensh*t !

I'd be very suprised to find out that any chasis that a driver really likes
ever goes completely away. Sort of like a quality airframe...they get
recycled, don't they?

There...back On Topic...

;O)

Jay B


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Old December 9th 05, 02:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Jay Beckman" wrote

Aw c'mon, you aren't giving the guys in the Fab shops any credit!!

They can make chicken salad out of chickensh*t !

I'd be very suprised to find out that any chasis that a driver really

likes
ever goes completely away. Sort of like a quality airframe...they get
recycled, don't they?

There...back On Topic...


Depends. One that llloops and rrrolls before they crash can't be fixed.
Once they have that many bbbends and cccracks, like Fetter's frames, they
become flower planters.

Difference is, the drivers almost always live.

See, I can stay on topic, too! ;-))
--
Jim in (the NASCAR state of) NC

 




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