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Old December 8th 05, 07:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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But the problem is high power LED's like Luxeons require hefty
heatsinks, which makes them not so attractive in composite structures
or confined spaces. That's why I thought a fiber optic illuminator
might be an attractive solution.

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Old December 9th 05, 04:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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wrote:
But the problem is high power LED's like Luxeons require hefty
heatsinks, which makes them not so attractive in composite structures
or confined spaces. That's why I thought a fiber optic illuminator
might be an attractive solution.


Make yourself a fairing out of 1/4" plexiglass. Well, not a whole
fairing, just a section that would be the glass that you'd have for the
light anyway. Now drill some 3/16" holes in it. Not just any way.
Drill the holes to distribute the light of high power LEDs in the
appropriate directions. Drill the hole with a high speed drill. The
plexiglass will melt a little and you won't be able to push the bit back
in once it cools down. That's good, as the standard superbright LED
will be a push fit. Stick a 1/2W 220 ohm resistor inline with two LEDs,
then parallel all the strings. Pot it with some clear epoxy. A little
paint in the appropriate places, and it'll look like you don't even have
lights.

3/16" holes could be made in a fiberglass fuselage to make running lights.

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Old December 9th 05, 06:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Ernest Christley" wrote

Make yourself a fairing out of 1/4" plexiglass. Well, not a whole
fairing, just a section that would be the glass that you'd have for the
light anyway. Now drill some 3/16" holes in it. Not just any way.
Drill the holes to distribute the light of high power LEDs in the
appropriate directions. Drill the hole with a high speed drill.


I like your thinking, but I'll add one more thing.

Modify your drill bit, or buy one for Plexiglas, or you risk cracking your
Plexiglas.

Use a dermal tool with a thin cutoff wheel, and use the side of it to change
the angle of the leading cutoff edge of the bit. As it is, there is a
positive angle to the bit, which is usually good for lifting the chips of
metal away, and helping the bit to self feed through the metal. That is a
"bad thing" for plexi. You want to have a 0 degree, or perhaps -1 degree
edge to the bit to "scrape" the material away, and that will pretty much
eliminate the chance of cracking the plexi. The drill bit, unmodified, will
try to pull it's way through the soft plexi too fast, which can cause the
cracking.
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Jim in NC

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Old December 9th 05, 07:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 00:20:23 -0500, "Morgans" wrote:

Use a dermal tool with a thin cutoff wheel....


A dermal tool with a cutoff wheel? Maybe you ought to start seeing doctors who
were trained SINCE the Civil War.... :-)

Ron "Dremel" Wanttaja

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Old December 9th 05, 08:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Ron Wanttaja" wrote

A dermal tool with a cutoff wheel? Maybe you ought to start seeing

doctors who
were trained SINCE the Civil War.... :-)


chuckle

"Curse you, Red Baron!" ((now mounting his trusty low monowing))

I've been doing my share of laughing at other's typo's lately... Bad karma
was destined to come my way! g

Darn Spell Checker! Yeah, that's the ticket! That's my story, and I'm
stickin' to it! g
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Old December 9th 05, 03:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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In article , Morgans says...

Typo?? What Typo? I happen to own 3 Dermal tools with cut off wheels! Slavo
Dermal built them in an obscure corner of the Black Sea years ago. It runs on 7
,12 volt car batteries and weighs a mere 18lbs ready to go ,less batteries. It's
a very portable unit. I had a bit of trouble with the chain drive lubrication
but since it can cut railroad tracks I don't see why it won't cut fiber optic
parts just as easily if properly lubricated. Mine are mounted on a horse drawn
cart for portability.

DERMAL ..if your not careful it'll take your skin off!! That's the Dermal motto
as is "If it's gotta go ,we can send it". Opps that's the motto for SPU.Never
mind

Chuck (sorry I couldn't help myself) S


wrote

A dermal tool with a cutoff wheel? Maybe you ought to start seeing

doctors who
were trained SINCE the Civil War.... :-)


chuckle

"Curse you, Red Baron!" ((now mounting his trusty low monowing))

I've been doing my share of laughing at other's typo's lately... Bad karma
was destined to come my way! g

Darn Spell Checker! Yeah, that's the ticket! That's my story, and I'm
stickin' to it! g


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Old December 10th 05, 02:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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In article , Morgans says...
I like your thinking, but I'll add one more thing.

Modify your drill bit, or buy one for Plexiglas, or you risk cracking your
Plexiglas.

Use a dermal tool with a thin cutoff wheel, and use the side of it to change
the angle of the leading cutoff edge of the bit. As it is, there is a
positive angle to the bit, which is usually good for lifting the chips of
metal away, and helping the bit to self feed through the metal. That is a
"bad thing" for plexi. You want to have a 0 degree, or perhaps -1 degree
edge to the bit to "scrape" the material away, and that will pretty much
eliminate the chance of cracking the plexi. The drill bit, unmodified, will
try to pull it's way through the soft plexi too fast, which can cause the
cracking.


It doesn't hurt to use some water for a coolant while drilling to keep the
plexiglass from expanding .On a small hole I just dip the drill bit into a cup
of water ,enough will stay on the drill to do the job. Flattening the drill bit
or getting one specifically for plastic definitly will make the job alot
easier.Good Luck

See ya

Chuck (I have 3 Dermal tools) S

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Old December 10th 05, 05:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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snip Flattening the drill bit
or getting one specifically for plastic definitly will make the job alot
easier.Good Luck


The easiest way is to fist drill a 1/2 inch deep hole into concrete to dull
the edge of the bit. Local plastic place does this with cheap shop Chinese
drill bits instead of buying flash expensive drill bits!

Hope this helps,
Pete


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Old December 11th 05, 12:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Bushy Pete wrote:
snip Flattening the drill bit
or getting one specifically for plastic definitly will make the job alot
easier.Good Luck



The easiest way is to fist drill a 1/2 inch deep hole into concrete to dull
the edge of the bit. Local plastic place does this with cheap shop Chinese
drill bits instead of buying flash expensive drill bits!

Hope this helps,
Pete



The easiest way is to just use the bits you already have in your toolbox
and modify your technique to suit the material.

I've seen those expensive bits. Never bought one. And I've never
cracked plexiglass drilling a hole since I've learned to do it right. I
just crank the drill as fast as it will go and let it burn it's way
through, clean the cruft, let it cool and burn through it again. The
sides come out rubbed smooth, and the edges just need a little chamfering.

You're locally heating the plastic with this method, so the hole won't
be the exact size of the bit, but is there such a thing as a precision
hole in plexiglass? No! All the holes should be oversized to leave room
for thermal expansion (as everyone knows) and for the superbright LEDs
you want it slightly undersized so that the LED is a push fit.

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This is by far the hardest lesson about freedom. It goes against
instinct, and morality, to just sit back and watch people make
mistakes. We want to help them, which means control them and their
decisions, but in doing so we actually hurt them (and ourselves)."
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Old December 10th 05, 06:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"ChuckSlusarczyk" wrote

Chuck (I have 3 Dermal tools)


So, you must have a lot of derma missing, with all of those tools, huh?

Nah, never mind, I've seen pictures of you! g
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Jim in NC


 




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