Heating the hanger

"Montblack" wrote in message
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They were a donation for our theater's fundraiser. They didn't sell at the
garage sale last spring, or this fall. Whole works is mine if I want it: 2
heaters + 20gals of kerosene = $50.

Might be a stocking stuffer ...for me.

You should move to Texas so you can have a 10 gallon hat to go with your 20
gallon stockings!

;-)

("Greg B" wrote)
You should move to Texas so you can have a 10 gallon hat to go with your
20 gallon stockings!


I'm moving up the food chain! No more lumps of coal.


Montblack
All hat - no cattle ...unless you count the poodle.

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:25:33 GMT, "Dave Stadt"
wrote:


"George Patterson" wrote in message
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Roger wrote:

I've forgotten my physics...any one... what's 30KW in BTU?

According to a formula I found at "infoplease", that works out to 102,360
BTU.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong
to
your slightly older self.

My 75K natural gas unit heater costs $1.00 per hour as a comparison.


Depending on what I'm doing I keep the shop 28 X 40 at 70 to 72
degrees F for about 12 out of 24 hours with the other 12 at 62 to 64
for about $2.00 to $3.00 a day in this very cold weather and it's
75,000 BTU as well. Of course it's not running all the time.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
Roger

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Current cost is about $3 per gallon.
--

Jet is even cheaper than diesel fuel here. Our ag operator was here
yesterday and told me that he uses Jet in his truck and in his furnace at
home because it's cheaper. Also keeps the injectors cleaner. Rather than
buying some #1 diesel, to blend with our #2 for the winter, I should have
just bought a 1/2 semi load of Jet. grrrrrrrrrr.

Jim

Montblack wrote:

("Tri-Pacer" wrote)

My computer made me do it That should have been 15 gallons

Still gonna be a cold winter.


I just bought 5 gallons of kerosene and the bill was over $50.00



I have an option to buy 4 cans (20 gallons total) of kerosene ...and get
two, new in the box, heaters thrown in to boot. These are bigger units -
upright. Many BTU's.

Go to your local FBO's and head back to the maintenence area. Many
FBO's have a policy that once they remove jet fuel from a plane they
cannot reuse it. My FBO has a 1000 gallon tank out back and I can get
pretty much all the jet fuel I want for my heater in the hangar.

Greg B wrote:

"Montblack" wrote in message
...

They were a donation for our theater's fundraiser. They didn't sell at the
garage sale last spring, or this fall. Whole works is mine if I want it: 2
heaters + 20gals of kerosene = $50.

Might be a stocking stuffer ...for me.


You should move to Texas so you can have a 10 gallon hat to go with your 20
gallon stockings!

Big hat, no cattle. Makes you a laughingstock.

"Newps" wrote in message
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Greg B wrote:

"Montblack" wrote in message
...

They were a donation for our theater's fundraiser. They didn't sell at
the garage sale last spring, or this fall. Whole works is mine if I want
it: 2 heaters + 20gals of kerosene = $50.

Might be a stocking stuffer ...for me.


You should move to Texas so you can have a 10 gallon hat to go with your
20 gallon stockings!

Big hat, no cattle. Makes you a laughingstock.

That's "All hat, no
--
Matt
---------------------
Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO cattle", sodbuster!

(ducking & running *real fast!*)

move to warm places in the south of the US?

(and now hiding....)

I'm in Denver, have a hangar, but it's cold out there! But at
least I don't get hail damage.

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 04:07:13 -0500, Roger
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:25:33 GMT, "Dave Stadt"
wrote:


"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:dYNnf.14092$Ea6.1451@trnddc08...
Roger wrote:

I've forgotten my physics...any one... what's 30KW in BTU?

According to a formula I found at "infoplease", that works out to 102,360
BTU.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong
to
your slightly older self.

My 75K natural gas unit heater costs $1.00 per hour as a comparison.


Depending on what I'm doing I keep the shop 28 X 40 at 70 to 72
degrees F for about 12 out of 24 hours with the other 12 at 62 to 64
for about $2.00 to $3.00 a day in this very cold weather and it's
75,000 BTU as well. Of course it's not running all the time.

I should have added the furnace is not running all the time, but the
shop is heated all winter, 24 X 7.

Actually it is heated the warmest during the coldest part of the night
as I usually work out there from about 7 or 8 PM on to about 3 or 4
AM. The setback takes it to 62 degrees at 3 AM, but it's usually
still 68 or better by then. It ramps back up to 66 at 7 AM where it
keeps it the rest of the day. it goes to 70 around 10 PM unless I
manually punch it up. The big doors get opened several times a day
which is another reason I don't keep it as warm as I do at night.

I just received the bill for this past month when we had the wind and
single digit temperatures. It was a tad under $2.50 a day at $74
($2.47 a day) including sur charges, delivery charge (for natural
gas?), and all the other charges and taxes they stuck in there.
I keep the shop warmer than the house, and it cost 20% less to heat
than the house.

The electrical use was up though as I did a lot of welding,wood
working, and fiberglass sanding last month, which meant the whole shop
fan was running all the time too. I had to set up the humidifier as
well as another fan just blowing over the top of some 5 gallon pails
of water. The humidity was down to 16%. It's no wonder the plywood I
took out there curled up before I could turn it into shelves. (and
that was less than two hours). 28" pieces were warping over an inch in
less than two hours. Clamps, glue, and a few nails took care of that.

Also there are 11, eight foot fluorescent fixtures (22, 8' lamps @
40W each) mounted from the ceiling. I'd like to use full spectrum, but
at the price they run, I think I'll stick with the cheap ones and
maybe hang a couple of the good ones over the work bench and desk.

When the first one burns out I change them all as I know the rest will
go within the next month or two. Besides a full carton is almost half
the price of purchasing the same number one-at-a-time. I throw out
the bad ones, and mark the others as spares, for the just-in-case. But
at any rate that is 440 watts or about 3 cents an hour for lights.
OTOH that works out to about $11 or $12 a month just for the ceiling
lights. It's amazing how each of the little costs adds up.

Let's see now... If I could convince my wife I need to replace that
big, heavy, bulky, gets in the way, 19" CRT on the computer out there
with an energy saving 21" LCD thin screen.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com




Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
Roger

On 17 Dec 2005 02:45:11 GMT, Blanche wrote:

(ducking & running *real fast!*)

move to warm places in the south of the US?

(and now hiding....)

I'm in Denver, have a hangar, but it's cold out there! But at
least I don't get hail damage.

Hmmmm... You new to Denver?
Some years back I was taking my wife out to visit my daughter who
lived in Boulder at the time. There were some towering Q that had
slid off the mountains right on top of Boulder, Denver, and even
Lyman.

They had a tornado at Lyman, baseball to softball size hail in both
Denver and Boulder. It actually splintered roof boards under shingles
and damaged millions of dollars worth of cars. It took the wind
screen out of one side on a Beech 1900 departing Stapleton. (I think
that may have been the last year of two of operation there.

We ended up getting 90 degreed once, but other than a few bumps it
went well. As we were leaving Jefco in the rental car, I looked up
to see a small plane "spit out" the side of one of those big black
clouds. He wasn't right side up although they did recover nicely.

One guy with a fairly new light twin got caught in it and although he
was able to land safely the airplane was nearly totaled.

They accused us of bringing Michigan weather along with us. I don't
think the visibility made it much above 10 miles for the entire week
we were there.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com