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Jury nullification, a great American tradition, that you
won't be told about in court. A jury is allowed to judge
the defendant and the law. The Judge will tell you to decide
if the defendant violated the LAW as written, the jury has
the right, duty and power to also judge the LAW and its
application in order to render Justice. If the jury is only
allowed to decide that the law was violated, the jury will
become part of the tyranny and not the shield that the
Founders wanted.

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The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm



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James H. Macklin
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"Grumman-581" wrote
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| "Jim Macklin" wrote
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| news:6ZPsf.38160$QW2.35626@dukeread08...
| Urban legend
|
| Nawh, it's a way of thinking... It may or may not fly with
a jury, but there
| is a chance that you'll get someone like me on the jury
who would vote to
| aquit...
|
|

Jim Macklin wrote:

Jury nullification, a great American tradition, that you
won't be told about in court.

In New Jersey, you will be told that it's illegal. At least, I was told that
when I was called for jury selection.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

It isn't illegal anywhere in the USA, but since it gives
power to the jury and the political bosses, want their "fair
trials" to have the desired result, any juror who knows of
or speaks about the term, let alone knows about jury
nullification will be excluded. If a lawyer brings it
during the trial the judge will probably declare a mistrial
and the attorney in contempt. I've even heard of people
handing out literature near the court house being arrested
for jury tampering [which it is not.].

New Jersey state laws violate many traditional American
values, that's why it is known as the "people's Republic of
New Jersey."


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.




"George Patterson" wrote in message
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| Jim Macklin wrote:
|
| Jury nullification, a great American tradition, that you
| won't be told about in court.
|
| In New Jersey, you will be told that it's illegal. At
least, I was told that
| when I was called for jury selection.
|
| George Patterson
| Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by
rights belong to
| your slightly older self.

Jim Macklin wrote:
It isn't illegal anywhere in the USA, but since it gives
power to the jury and the political bosses, want their "fair
trials" to have the desired result, any juror who knows of
or speaks about the term, let alone knows about jury
nullification will be excluded.

No, it is illegal in New Jersey. The Jersey law stems from a particularly
viscious murder case in the late 80s. The State asked for the death penalty and
one juror made up his mind ahead of time that he was not going to vote to
convict because he had strong feelings about the death penalty. That resulted in
a hung jury and a retrial. The State could not ask for the death penalty at the
second trial (that would be double jeopardy).

The legislature passed a law shortly thereafter. Try it again in New Jersey, and
you will spend a few years in prison. You will be warned about this during jury
selection.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

The legislature passed a law shortly thereafter. Try it again in New Jersey, and you will spend a few years in prison. You will be warned about this during jury selection.

Try =what= in New Jersey?

Jose
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"Jose" wrote in message ...
The legislature passed a law shortly thereafter. Try it again in New Jersey, and you will spend a few years
in prison. You will be warned about this during jury selection.

Try =what= in New Jersey?


A juror ADMITTING that he had made up his mind before the trial

That law is probably unconstitutional. If a juror makes up
their mind before a trial, then that is a violation of the
duty of a juror. But if during a trial, the evidence
presented leads a juror to decide that the law or its
application in the case is wrong, a juror can vote any way
they want.

Seems that the case you cited was poorly tried and the jury
not screened well enough by the state.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"George Patterson" wrote in message
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| Jim Macklin wrote:
| It isn't illegal anywhere in the USA, but since it gives
| power to the jury and the political bosses, want their
"fair
| trials" to have the desired result, any juror who knows
of
| or speaks about the term, let alone knows about jury
| nullification will be excluded.
|
| No, it is illegal in New Jersey. The Jersey law stems from
a particularly
| viscious murder case in the late 80s. The State asked for
the death penalty and
| one juror made up his mind ahead of time that he was not
going to vote to
| convict because he had strong feelings about the death
penalty. That resulted in
| a hung jury and a retrial. The State could not ask for the
death penalty at the
| second trial (that would be double jeopardy).
|
| The legislature passed a law shortly thereafter. Try it
again in New Jersey, and
| you will spend a few years in prison. You will be warned
about this during jury
| selection.
|
| George Patterson
| Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by
rights belong to
| your slightly older self.

That's the best post you've ever put here, Jim, even if it is off-topic,
off-thread, and probably fattening.


Jack

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Jim Macklin wrote:
Jury nullification, a great American tradition, that you
won't be told about in court. A jury is allowed to judge
the defendant and the law. The Judge will tell you to decide
if the defendant violated the LAW as written, the jury has
the right, duty and power to also judge the LAW and its
application in order to render Justice. If the jury is only
allowed to decide that the law was violated, the jury will
become part of the tyranny and not the shield that the
Founders wanted.

American Jury Institute/Fully Informed Jury Association:
Home
A non-profit educational association whose mission is to
inform all Americans
about their rights, powers and responsibilities when serving
as trial jurors.
www.fija.org/ - 11k - Dec 29, 2005 - Cached - Similar pages

Fully Informed Jury Association Home Page
The Fully Informed Jury Association is a non-profit (501c3)
educational organization
dedicated to informing jurors of their rights, particularly
their right ...
www.ibiblio.org/fija/fijahome.htm - 2k - Cached - Similar
pages

Thanks, just don't tell a court if you want to serve on a
jury.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"Jack" wrote in message
. net...
| That's the best post you've ever put here, Jim, even if it
is off-topic,
| off-thread, and probably fattening.
|
|
| Jack
|
| -----------------
|
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| Jury nullification, a great American tradition, that you
| won't be told about in court. A jury is allowed to
judge
| the defendant and the law. The Judge will tell you to
decide
| if the defendant violated the LAW as written, the jury
has
| the right, duty and power to also judge the LAW and its
| application in order to render Justice. If the jury is
only
| allowed to decide that the law was violated, the jury
will
| become part of the tyranny and not the shield that the
| Founders wanted.
|
| American Jury Institute/Fully Informed Jury Association:
| Home
| A non-profit educational association whose mission is to
| inform all Americans
| about their rights, powers and responsibilities when
serving
| as trial jurors.
| www.fija.org/ - 11k - Dec 29, 2005 - Cached - Similar
pages
|
| Fully Informed Jury Association Home Page
| The Fully Informed Jury Association is a non-profit
(501c3)
| educational organization
| dedicated to informing jurors of their rights,
particularly
| their right ...
| www.ibiblio.org/fija/fijahome.htm - 2k - Cached -
Similar
| pages

Jim Macklin wrote:
Thanks, just don't tell a court if you want to serve on a
jury.


Mum's the word.


Jack