Flying without FAA medical or insurance

I hope you fly better than you navigate Usenet as I never said that.

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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sfb wrote:

I welcome your opinions. Don't bother with preachy, holier-than-thou
platitudes - just the pros and cons.

My opinion is that only idiots provide information to people who get
preachy and tell people how to respond to their posts.

Matt

sfb wrote:

I hope you fly better than you navigate Usenet as I never said that.

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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sfb wrote:


I welcome your opinions. Don't bother with preachy, holier-than-thou
platitudes - just the pros and cons.

My opinion is that only idiots provide information to people who get
preachy and tell people how to respond to their posts.

Matt




Sorry about that. I was trimming the post and trimmed too much.

Matt

First, you are required by FAA regulations to have a physical.
Second, in some states it is mandatory to have insurance.

If you violate both the above you would probably have your license
revoked and charged by the state for violation of the law.

Of course if you do the above and have an accident then the judical
vermin would ravage your carcass in court.

This is not really a difficult problem to consider.

Is there a pilot here who thinks he will not be caught???

"darthpup" wrote in message
ups.com...
First, you are required by FAA regulations to have a physical.
Second, in some states it is mandatory to have insurance.

If you violate both the above you would probably have your license
revoked and charged by the state for violation of the law.

Of course if you do the above and have an accident then the judical
vermin would ravage your carcass in court.

This is not really a difficult problem to consider.

Is there a pilot here who thinks he will not be caught???

He could probably fly for decades and never get caught. Fly in and out of
small Podunk strips. Doing so is much more common than many think. Same as
driving a car without a license or insurance.

"Dave Stadt" writes:


He could probably fly for decades and never get caught. Fly in and out of
small Podunk strips. Doing so is much more common than many think. Same as
driving a car without a license or insurance.

I have an ex-boss who flew IFR with years without a rating.
For all I know, he still does.

That doesn't make right....





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I said:

I have an ex-boss who flew IFR with years without a rating.
For all I know, he still does.

That doesn't make right....


Hours later, it occurs to me that a reader here might think I was
referring to a far more recent ex-boss, one who posts here.

I was not.

When I worked for Chuck, he was spending all his money on boats err
MMU's not AMU's. I don't even know if he'd been in a GA aircraft
back then.

The ex-boss I referred was long ago, before I went to engineering
school...and about 65% of Chuck's size. He fit into a Mooney.


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& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

"David Lesher" wrote in message
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Hours later, it occurs to me that a reader here might think I was
referring to a far more recent ex-boss, one who posts here.

I was not.
The ex-boss I referred was long ago, before I went to engineering
school...and about 65% of Chuck's size. He fit into a Mooney.


And the hole just gets deeper and deeper......

Thanks Dave, and my IFR is current.

Here's a story that a CFI in Tucson, AZ told me some years ago.

One Friday, a rancher came up to him and said that he had just bought a
plane and wanted to learn to fly that weekend. My friend started to
outline the steps to a private when he was interrupted with, "No, No, I
just want to learn to fly this weekend!" After some discussion, my
friend realized he had a couple of days to teach this man. On Monday,
he flew his plane home. Did the CFI do right? I don't know, but he
probably kept the rancher from trying to fly with no instruction.

Also, the charts in the AZ area show ranches, I think it's because
most have an airstrip of sorts and the rancher has a plane. Licenses?
Who knows.

Chuck

David Lesher wrote:
I said:

I have an ex-boss who flew IFR with years without a rating.
For all I know, he still does.

That doesn't make right....


Hours later, it occurs to me that a reader here might think I was
referring to a far more recent ex-boss, one who posts here.

I was not.

When I worked for Chuck, he was spending all his money on boats err
MMU's not AMU's. I don't even know if he'd been in a GA aircraft
back then.

The ex-boss I referred was long ago, before I went to engineering
school...and about 65% of Chuck's size. He fit into a Mooney.


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A host is a host from coast to
& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

Dave Stadt wrote:
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This is not really a difficult problem to consider.

Is there a pilot here who thinks he will not be caught???

He could probably fly for decades and never get caught. Fly in and out of
small Podunk strips. Doing so is much more common than many think. Same as
driving a car without a license or insurance.

The great aviatrix Pancho Barnes never had a legit pilot's license
until very late in life. She had to log 20 dual and 20 solo hours and
took the PP-ASEL checkride although she already had thousands of logged
hours. She kept a log-they just weren't valid. Viktor Belenko had the
same problem, I believe- they would have honored his Soviet military
pilot card and logs, but they were back in Mother Russia, and the Sovs
weren't about to forward them! When the Wall came down they did, and he
was able to get advanced ratings-I don't know if he ever got a MiG LOA!

A lot of rural people bought airplanes cash and flew them in partial
or total disregard of regulations. Some would get dual under a student
ticket and never take the checkride. In the 60s and 70s it was well
known some would buy Bonanzas, cabin twins, you name it, file IFR and
had never had any license or ratings. There were even rumors of people
who would buy Lears cash and fly them around with anyone gullible
enough to sit in the right seat. Many others would get legal at one
point and then just quit getting medicals and BFRs and whatnot.

I'm sure there people flying in the bushes "bootleg" but if they are
going in and out of controlled fields sooner or later they are going to
run into ramp checks, or someone will put two and two together. If
you're really old or really wealthy and judgement proof you may say
WTF, but I can't imagine young people in any numbers doing this.

I'm not sure what they'd do to you today. If people are doing it in
numbers, they are getting nailed at least often enough to supply the
answer. Anyone "know"?

Its comforting to hear such lame reasoning coming from licensed?
pilots.

Do I detect a note of lawlessness here?