First Glider - No Gelcoat

Eric,

I was not advocating that he buy a Std. Cirrus, only pointing out that
I found it a good ship in spite of all the nay sayers that will tell
you how bad any older ship is. I feel the Std. Jantar is a good ship
for a newer pilot, the LS-4 of course is nearly the gold standard in
terms of an 80's vintage gliders. Anything newer will for the most
part have similar handling.

I still love the Std. Cirrus in spite of all the points you make about
it. I flew serial number 17, George Moffat's original Std. Cirrus
that was supposed to stall so badly. I never found it to be a problem
or concern. I could hang it on the tail and out climb almost any other
ship. And yes we Cirri pilots did learn how to slip on final.

If you want fun with a stall, try spinning the Nimbus 2 while trying to
take a turn point picture with the old cameras. That will get your
attention in a hurry.

Tim

TTaylor at cc.usu.edu wrote:
Eric,

I was not advocating that he buy a Std. Cirrus, only pointing out that
I found it a good ship in spite of all the nay sayers that will tell
you how bad any older ship is.

I'm sure you enjoyed ship (I enjoyed mine when I had it, but I wouldn't
fly one now, even though I have thousands more hours), but any one of
the things I mentioned take it out of the "good ship" category, in my
opinion. It's not that these things can't be compensated for by pilot
training, experience, and some modifications in the case of the wheel
brake, it's that these attributes don't need to be tolerated any more by
someone that wants a "good" glider. Further, there is no cure for the
poor crashworthiness, and (again, in my opinion) a glider should be much
better than the early 70's era gliders in this regard to get a "good"
rating these days.

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Eric Greenwell
Washington State
USA

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