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Old February 15th 06, 11:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Actually US Marshalls service flown by the FAA, on all Boston area
news currently however Fox and others are all over this story.

Bush

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:08:44 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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"Bush" wrote in message
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N1 lands in BED with Entwhistle on board. What is the FAA doing flying
this alledged murder suspect back to the US?


Are you sure they did?


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Old February 16th 06, 02:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Bush wrote:

Actually US Marshalls service flown by the FAA, on all Boston area
news currently however Fox and others are all over this story.


Yeah it was nuts. At least four helicopters hovering for quite some time in
the pattern, just south of the field. I'm surprised ATC let them get so close
since the pattern is usually so busy, especially around sunset it can be hard
to get in the D, let alone stand still in the pattern. As soon as they
finally got their shot they left quickly. Not sure if the newly arrived
spent any time visiting the Customs double-wide before getting nine squad
cars for the escort to hopkinton.

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Old February 16th 06, 03:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article , John R wrote:

Not sure if the newly arrived
spent any time visiting the Customs double-wide before getting nine squad
cars for the escort to hopkinton.


They probably cleared customs in Bangor.

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Bob Noel
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Old February 16th 06, 03:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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They probably cleared customs in Bangor.
************************************************** *****

Bob, this interested me enough to spend 45 minutes on the phone, with 7
different customs offices, finally ending up with a Mr. name withheld
by me for reasons below who explained the procedure...
Federal agencies reentering the country on official business,
especially with prisoners, normally have one or more of those federal
personnel being also a customs agent with the authority to interview
and clear people in and out of the country... So Entwhistle would have
been interviewed and cleared into the country while in the air... Same
for all persons aboard the aircraft... The plane hits the ground, the
prisoner is hustled to the car, and everyone scatters before the
prisoner can meet his just desserts...

I then asked about U.S. war ships, etc., entering and leaving the
country... Same deal, some officers aboard a military ship have customs
agent authority and all the paperwork is completed aboard the vessel
prior to exit or entry...

SCOOP for RAP members only:
He also mentioned that the planes moving prisoners to and from
Guantanamo have a federal agent on board with customs authority who
clears them in and out of the country without going through the customs
gates...
I strongly doubt he intended that for the 6 o'clock news, so I have
chosen to redact his name above... But, it's an interesting tidbit...

Foaming at the mouth media mongors need not call me as I won't discuss
it...

BTW, there is a customs and border agent on board Air Force One and he
interviews and clears everyone, including the President, in and out of
the country... At which point I regaled him with the story reported
here on rec.aviation of Vice President Dan Quail having to remove his
shoes and be patted down at the airport... He laughed, said he both
knows and likes Mr. Quail, but if he were the agent, 'it would have
been down to his skivvies!'

Famous, new saying, copyright to me:
"There is nothing more powerful than a little authority."

Remember that when you are dealing with the TSA agent at the airport,
who was a medicaid momma before she was given 3 weeks of classroom
training, a badge and the power to destroy your life......

denny

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Old February 16th 06, 03:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Dan Quayle, quail are birds.



"Denny" wrote in message
oups.com...
| They probably cleared customs in Bangor.
| ************************************************** *****
|
| Bob, this interested me enough to spend 45 minutes on the
phone, with 7
| different customs offices, finally ending up with a Mr.
name withheld
| by me for reasons below who explained the procedure...
| Federal agencies reentering the country on official
business,
| especially with prisoners, normally have one or more of
those federal
| personnel being also a customs agent with the authority to
interview
| and clear people in and out of the country... So
Entwhistle would have
| been interviewed and cleared into the country while in the
air... Same
| for all persons aboard the aircraft... The plane hits the
ground, the
| prisoner is hustled to the car, and everyone scatters
before the
| prisoner can meet his just desserts...
|
| I then asked about U.S. war ships, etc., entering and
leaving the
| country... Same deal, some officers aboard a military ship
have customs
| agent authority and all the paperwork is completed aboard
the vessel
| prior to exit or entry...
|
| SCOOP for RAP members only:
| He also mentioned that the planes moving prisoners to and
from
| Guantanamo have a federal agent on board with customs
authority who
| clears them in and out of the country without going
through the customs
| gates...
| I strongly doubt he intended that for the 6 o'clock news,
so I have
| chosen to redact his name above... But, it's an
interesting tidbit...
|
| Foaming at the mouth media mongors need not call me as I
won't discuss
| it...
|
| BTW, there is a customs and border agent on board Air
Force One and he
| interviews and clears everyone, including the President,
in and out of
| the country... At which point I regaled him with the
story reported
| here on rec.aviation of Vice President Dan Quail having
to remove his
| shoes and be patted down at the airport... He laughed,
said he both
| knows and likes Mr. Quail, but if he were the agent, 'it
would have
| been down to his skivvies!'
|
| Famous, new saying, copyright to me:
| "There is nothing more powerful than a little authority."
|
| Remember that when you are dealing with the TSA agent at
the airport,
| who was a medicaid momma before she was given 3 weeks of
classroom
| training, a badge and the power to destroy your life......
|
| denny
|


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Old February 16th 06, 04:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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BTW, there is a customs and border agent on board Air Force One and he
interviews and clears everyone, including the President,


No way there is any customs agents of any kind on AF1 so they can clear
the President back into the country.
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Old February 16th 06, 04:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Newps wrote:

No way there is any customs agents of any kind on AF1 so they can clear
the President back into the country.



Recent news suggests that Federal Air Marshalls need to clear customs.
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Old February 16th 06, 04:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Newps" wrote in message
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BTW, there is a customs and border agent on board Air Force One and he
interviews and clears everyone, including the President,


No way there is any customs agents of any kind on AF1 so they can clear
the President back into the country.



I doubt it is for the President or even his staff. They would all be
carrying diplomatic passports anyway. Now there might be someone on board to
clear all the press folks that are in the back of the plane.


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Old February 17th 06, 02:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message
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"Newps" wrote in message
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BTW, there is a customs and border agent on board Air Force One and he
interviews and clears everyone, including the President,


No way there is any customs agents of any kind on AF1 so they can clear
the President back into the country.



I doubt it is for the President or even his staff. They would all be
carrying diplomatic passports anyway.



I thought a citizen of the United States, Presidents included, had to abide
by the LAWS of the United States.

I thought a diplomatic passport permits the citizens of OTHER countries in
certain circumstances to be EXEMPT from the laws of the United States (and
a US citizen's diplomatic passport equals the same privilege in those other
countries).

But a US citizen in the US equals US Laws... all of them. Is that not
correct???





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Old February 16th 06, 04:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Well, go tell that to the high placed customs official in DC who said
it to me this morning... He volunteered that information on his own -
questioning the President's travels didn't occur to me - while we were
discussing the point that selected members of federal and military
agencies have been through customs school and are customs agent /
border patrol officers along with their other credentials... He
specifically, and adamently in tone, made the point that even"the
President" has to clear customs in and out... I don't have a dog in
this fight...

denny

 




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