Would you fly this Aircraft?

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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Who said this was a low-wing twin?

Beside the fact that, in a subsequent post the OP actually explicitly stated
that the airplane is a low-wing twin (prior to John's post).

"Jim Macklin" wrote in

Who said this was a low-wing twin?

Would it be a normally aspirated, carburetted, high-wing twin with a brace
of 140-160hp engines? You don't trip over them every day.

If you have a tank with a fixed amount of fuel, and the temperature rises,
the fuel will expand. However, the presure at the bottom of the fuel tank
will not increase if the tank is properly vented.

Mike Schumann

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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Gasoline changes density with the blend and it also changes
with temperature. The "standard" 6 pounds per gallon (US)
is just an average. Yes, the distance the weight a fluid
(including air) acts under gravity determines the pressure.
Volume is a measure of space, density is a measure of mass
per unit space.


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"Jose" wrote in message
. net...
| weight is a function of density, volume does not matter
when
| pressure is measured in PSI.
|
| The density of gasoline changes much? Weight is mainly a
function of
| the quantity of matter present (mass) and the
gravitational field it's
| in. Given liquid gasoline and the earth, volume is a good
stand-in for
| weight.
|
| Pressure depends on the height of a column of fluid in a
gravitational
| field. Is that what you meant?
|
| Jose
| --
| Nothing takes longer than a shortcut.
| for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

If you aren't sure it's OK then it is NOT OK.

Mike Schumann

"John Gaquin" wrote in message
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"C J Southern" wrote in message

Not really. For me, the question is do I bother making the trip to the
airport, or do I wait for someone else to be the "canary in a cage". I've
also got a slightly nervous a passenger to consider......


The crux of the question really is .......

No, the crux of the question is this: why won't you, as putative PIC, just
make a decision? Why do you need a committee of people thoroughly
unfamiliar with the details to consult with and support you? You don't
fly an aircraft, particularly a single-pilot aircraft, by consensus.
You're clearly hesitant about the aircraft and don't really want to take
it, but you post to the NG in a way that says 'I'm bothered by this
craft, but I don't want anyone to think I'm a wuus'. Take it, or don't
take it, but make a decision. If there's not enough data to confirm
safety, then don't take it.

Champion Lancer


But I don't know of any twin in recent production that uses
any of the same type of engine that a Cessna 172 uses.


"Peter Duniho" wrote in
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| "Jim Macklin" wrote
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| news:BBgTf.118099$QW2.115471@dukeread08...
| Who said this was a low-wing twin?
|
| Do you know of a high-wing twin that uses "C172 engines"?
(as stated in the
| original post)
|
|

I didn't see that, did they also actually state the
make/model?


"Peter Duniho" wrote in
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| "Jim Macklin" wrote
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| news:BBgTf.118099$QW2.115471@dukeread08...
| Who said this was a low-wing twin?
|
| Beside the fact that, in a subsequent post the OP actually
explicitly stated
| that the airplane is a low-wing twin (prior to John's
post).
|
|

Jim Macklin wrote:
Who said this was a low-wing twin?


No idea but there is always Cessnas Skymaster CLT if you want a
highwing twin :-)

New Piper Seminole uses O-360's. Any O-360's in the 172's? I know of
IO-360s but don't know what the carb'd versions use.

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:46:02 -0600, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:

Champion Lancer


But I don't know of any twin in recent production that uses
any of the same type of engine that a Cessna 172 uses.


"Peter Duniho" wrote in
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| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:BBgTf.118099$QW2.115471@dukeread08...
| Who said this was a low-wing twin?
|
| Do you know of a high-wing twin that uses "C172 engines"?
(as stated in the
| original post)
|
|

"John Gaquin" wrote in message
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"C J Southern" wrote in message

Not really. For me, the question is do I bother making the trip to the
airport, or do I wait for someone else to be the "canary in a cage".
I've
also got a slightly nervous a passenger to consider......


The crux of the question really is .......

No, the crux of the question is this: why won't you, as putative PIC, just
make a decision? Why do you need a committee of people thoroughly
unfamiliar with the details to consult with and support you? You don't
fly
an aircraft, particularly a single-pilot aircraft, by consensus. You're
clearly hesitant about the aircraft and don't really want to take it, but
you post to the NG in a way that says 'I'm bothered by this craft, but I
don't want anyone to think I'm a wuus'. Take it, or don't take it, but
make
a decision. If there's not enough data to confirm safety, then don't take
it.

You've still got the wrong end of the stick. The Question was "Would you fly
this aircraft?", not "Should I fly this aircraft?". I was never going to fly
it like that - however - that decision / position will no doubt cause
"somewhat of a debate in certain circles" - and as such I was interested as
to how many others would come to the conclusion I did, given the same
information I had - and it seems that the answer is "most of them". It's got
nothing to do with "hesitation or flying by committee" - the opportunity for
the flight had passed before I even wrote the original post.

Given that if you were here to inspect it then you'd not be able to see
where the leak was coming from, and would not be permitted to remove the
cowl then you'd have had the same info I've given here to make a go/no-go
decision. To me it's a no brainer, but I tell you what - I bet that aircraft
flies again with someone else PIC without any further investigation.

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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Champion Lancer


But I don't know of any twin in recent production that uses
any of the same type of engine that a Cessna 172 uses.

A Grumman American GA7 Cougar would be another example ...