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Old March 30th 06, 07:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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It is so useless we don't put it on the ATIS anymore

It's useless because pilots don't know what the number means, or what to
do about it. Pilots aren't told what it means because it's not much
used. It's not much used because...

So... what do the numbers correspond to? That is, if I hear a mu of 33,
what can I expect?

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Old March 30th 06, 08:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jose" wrote in message
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So... what do the numbers correspond to? That is, if I hear a mu of 33,
what can I expect?


http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc...9/phy99x80.htm


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Old March 30th 06, 09:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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So... what do the numbers correspond to? That is, if I hear a mu of 33,
what can I expect?

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc...9/phy99x80.htm


Yes, I know that much. But the coefficient of friction depends on what
I am contacting the runway with. And a mu of 33 implies epoxy, not
friction. (I would presume that they mean .33 and leave out the point,
but it may well mean .033, leaving out the .0)

To decelerate uniformly from 100 feet per second (about 60 knots) to
zero in 1000 feet would require 20 seconds, and deceleration of 5 feet
per second per second. This is about 1/3 the acceleration due to
gravity (for the pedants, yes, it's in a different direction). A mu of
about 1/3 (or about .33) would provide the necessary force, assuming the
entire weight of the aircraft is on the landing gear (not that great an
assumption, but good for starters).

So, what are representative mu for various conditions I would encounter
upon landing? (dry pavement, wet pavement, ice, snow, packed snow,
grass, fifth graders...)?

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Old March 30th 06, 10:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jose" wrote in message
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Yes, I know that much. But the coefficient of friction depends on what I
am contacting the runway with.


Most often it's rubber.


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Old March 30th 06, 10:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jose wrote:
It is so useless we don't put it on the ATIS anymore



It's useless because pilots don't know what the number means, or what to
do about it. Pilots aren't told what it means because it's not much
used. It's not much used because...

So... what do the numbers correspond to? That is, if I hear a mu of 33,
what can I expect?


I have no idea. We were told the industry and the FAA got together and
came up with this system and the pilots that wanted the information
would know what the numbers mean. So far nobody ever asks for the mu.
 




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