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Old April 7th 06, 05:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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EridanMan wrote:
Hey Guys-

Has anyone ever attempted to install a Hilsch Tube (Vortex Tube) in an
aircraft for environmental controls?

The setup I see would be very light, a 3 foot long PVC vortex tube (no
more than 5 lbs) with a small exhaust turbocharger force-feeding it.
Yes the Hilsch tube is not a particularly efficiant cooling mechanism,
but exaust-gas pressure is essentially 'wasted energy' anyways.


But, it's not really.
Adding extra back pressure to the engine decreases its efficiency.
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Old April 7th 06, 11:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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And small, unpressurized airplanes don't need cooling. The air outside
is plenty cold. For heat, there's lots to be had from the exhaust or
oil with a simple heat exchanger.

In a pressurized airplane, I don't think the vortex tube would work. I
don't think you can exhaust the cold side into the cabin and the hot
side overboard, so I think you're back to conventional AC.

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Old April 7th 06, 11:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Yeah... You have a point about how useful it might be (especially for a
Bay area pilot such as myself)...

Although - The tube flow is pressurized, so there's no reason that a
hirsch tube setup could be used as the preassurization mechanism for an
aircraft (assuming the structure can handle it... big assumption)...
The only question would be could you maintain a comfortable balance of
warm and cold air...

I dunno... Probably more effort than its worth, i'll agree, but its
still fun to think about.

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Old April 8th 06, 01:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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The flow tube is pressurized, but I'll bet if the cold side exit is at
a higher pressure than the hot side exit, the pressurized air inside
the cabin will just join the pressurized turbocomressed air in exiting
to the outside atmosphere.

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Old April 7th 06, 11:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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The very point of the Turbo is that a well designed turbine (matched to
the expected flow) do not significantly increase backpreassure, but
does harvest excess pressure energy.

This is the fundamental difference between Turbocharging and
Supercharging.

 




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