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Would it be better to wait a few months or years for the
religious fanatics to have a dozen or even hundred nuclear
weapons and the missiles needed to strike 1,000 miles or
more? Almost all of Europe would be targeted and then the
world could have a two-sided nuclear war. France, Italy,
Germany, Russia, and Israel would all be attacked. The USA
might be safe from direct missile attack, but if you know
what will happen, why wait for the final step?

We can use conventional bombs, but we also need to be sure
that the underground factories are destroyed and they were
designed to be hardened, nukes will do the job.


--
James H. Macklin
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"Bob Fry" wrote in message
...
| "JM" == Jim Macklin
writes:
| JM second
| JM nuke IRAN
|
| Ahh, the US's third world (aka Kansas, Oklahoma, and the
South)
| solution to everything: nuke 'em!

Jim Macklin wrote:

Would it be better to wait a few months or years for the
religious fanatics to have a dozen or even hundred nuclear
weapons and the missiles needed to strike 1,000 miles or
more? Almost all of Europe would be targeted and then the
world could have a two-sided nuclear war. France, Italy,
Germany, Russia, and Israel would all be attacked. The USA
might be safe from direct missile attack, but if you know
what will happen, why wait for the final step?

We can use conventional bombs, but we also need to be sure
that the underground factories are destroyed and they were
designed to be hardened, nukes will do the job.

So what? Everytime someone else figures out how to construct a nuclear
bomb you attack them? Look it's not really groundbreaking technology
anymore to make a fission bomb. The hardest part is to enrich the
uranium (because it's a complicated process that requires a lot of
advanced chemistry and centrifuge technology,, not to mention a lot of
uranium ore) or the other alternative is to use plutonium (requires a
more complicated bomb design due to unwanted Pu-240), or maybe even
thorium. Plutonium, as a Doc said, is a little harder to come by if you
don't have your own reactor. But basically if you have enough U-235,
all you need to do is construct a conventional explosive device to smash
two sufficiently sized balls of uranium together, and presto! You have
an a-bomb. There's god-knows how much Soviet weapons grade material
that nobody knows what happened to floating around as well, so that
takes care of your enrichening problem.

If you're going to attack everyone who figures this out (no matter how
crazy they may want to be) you're going to be very very busy for a long
time. And how do you know where all of these supposed factories are?
What do you do when they are beneath apartment buildings or schools or
hospitals? And if you start bombing around, don't forget to duck when
the mail comes in back home.

One person's religious fanatic is another person's leader.

Taylor wrote:
time. And how do you know where all of these supposed factories are?

oh, that one's easy: you just rely on the info from the same
intelligence agencies that found the WMD in Iraq. They are real
good at this kind of things.

Anyway, anyone who thinks the 'Iran' problem has anything to do with
them bragging about nukes is a tad naive; they are doing something
far worse than that, and that's what is going to get them bombed: they
are about to start trading oil in euros instead of dollars.

--Sylvain

"Sylvain" wrote in message
...

Anyway, anyone who thinks the 'Iran' problem has anything to do with
them bragging about nukes is a tad naive; they are doing something
far worse than that, and that's what is going to get them bombed: they
are about to start trading oil in euros instead of dollars.

--Sylvain

Bingo

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news:IE55g.95155$WI1.2193@pd7tw2no...

"Sylvain" wrote in message
...

Anyway, anyone who thinks the 'Iran' problem has anything to do with
them bragging about nukes is a tad naive; they are doing something
far worse than that, and that's what is going to get them bombed: they
are about to start trading oil in euros instead of dollars.

--Sylvain

Bingo

Yeah...let's cause hyperinflation of the Euro. Between that and their
overburdened welfare states, we can put the last nail in the European
coffin.

Iran is run by lunatics and they are threatening to blow up
the world while they are actively enriching uranium ore.
Why wait longer?



"Taylor" wrote in message
...
|
|
| Jim Macklin wrote:
|
| Would it be better to wait a few months or years for the
| religious fanatics to have a dozen or even hundred
nuclear
| weapons and the missiles needed to strike 1,000 miles or
| more? Almost all of Europe would be targeted and then
the
| world could have a two-sided nuclear war. France,
Italy,
| Germany, Russia, and Israel would all be attacked. The
USA
| might be safe from direct missile attack, but if you
know
| what will happen, why wait for the final step?
|
| We can use conventional bombs, but we also need to be
sure
| that the underground factories are destroyed and they
were
| designed to be hardened, nukes will do the job.
|
| So what? Everytime someone else figures out how to
construct a nuclear
| bomb you attack them? Look it's not really groundbreaking
technology
| anymore to make a fission bomb. The hardest part is to
enrich the
| uranium (because it's a complicated process that requires
a lot of
| advanced chemistry and centrifuge technology,, not to
mention a lot of
| uranium ore) or the other alternative is to use plutonium
(requires a
| more complicated bomb design due to unwanted Pu-240), or
maybe even
| thorium. Plutonium, as a Doc said, is a little harder to
come by if you
| don't have your own reactor. But basically if you have
enough U-235,
| all you need to do is construct a conventional explosive
device to smash
| two sufficiently sized balls of uranium together, and
presto! You have
| an a-bomb. There's god-knows how much Soviet weapons
grade material
| that nobody knows what happened to floating around as
well, so that
| takes care of your enrichening problem.
|
| If you're going to attack everyone who figures this out
(no matter how
| crazy they may want to be) you're going to be very very
busy for a long
| time. And how do you know where all of these supposed
factories are?
| What do you do when they are beneath apartment buildings
or schools or
| hospitals? And if you start bombing around, don't forget
to duck when
| the mail comes in back home.
|
| One person's religious fanatic is another person's leader.
|
|
|
|
|
|

Jim Macklin wrote:

Iran is run by lunatics and they are threatening to blow up
the world while they are actively enriching uranium ore.
Why wait longer?

"Taylor" wrote in message
...
|
|
| Jim Macklin wrote:
|
| Would it be better to wait a few months or years for the
| religious fanatics to have a dozen or even hundred
nuclear
| weapons and the missiles needed to strike 1,000 miles or
| more? Almost all of Europe would be targeted and then
the
| world could have a two-sided nuclear war. France,
Italy,
| Germany, Russia, and Israel would all be attacked. The
USA
| might be safe from direct missile attack, but if you
know
| what will happen, why wait for the final step?
|
| We can use conventional bombs, but we also need to be
sure
| that the underground factories are destroyed and they
were
| designed to be hardened, nukes will do the job.
|
| So what? Everytime someone else figures out how to
construct a nuclear
| bomb you attack them? Look it's not really groundbreaking
technology
| anymore to make a fission bomb. The hardest part is to
enrich the
| uranium (because it's a complicated process that requires
a lot of
| advanced chemistry and centrifuge technology,, not to
mention a lot of
| uranium ore) or the other alternative is to use plutonium
(requires a
| more complicated bomb design due to unwanted Pu-240), or
maybe even
| thorium. Plutonium, as a Doc said, is a little harder to
come by if you
| don't have your own reactor. But basically if you have
enough U-235,
| all you need to do is construct a conventional explosive
device to smash
| two sufficiently sized balls of uranium together, and
presto! You have
| an a-bomb. There's god-knows how much Soviet weapons
grade material
| that nobody knows what happened to floating around as
well, so that
| takes care of your enrichening problem.
|
| If you're going to attack everyone who figures this out
(no matter how
| crazy they may want to be) you're going to be very very
busy for a long
| time. And how do you know where all of these supposed
factories are?
| What do you do when they are beneath apartment buildings
or schools or
| hospitals? And if you start bombing around, don't forget
to duck when
| the mail comes in back home.
|
| One person's religious fanatic is another person's leader.

Someone else could argue that the USA is being run by lunatics too,
threatening to invade countries that pose no threat to them. I missed
where Iran where was threatening to blow up the world, or how that would
be in Iran's interest. Countries all over the world enrich uranium, it
is necessary for many types of power reactors, including the types used
in USA. If you start attacking any country that you don't like because
they are enriching uranium, where do you stop? Should we attack France,
Armenia, Russia, Pakistan, China, North Korea, Kazakhstan, Cuba, etc.
because they have nuclear programs? Start attacking Iran and they may
find it in their best interests to close the Straits of Hormuz, or at
least fire a missile at any oil tanker or navy ship that happens to
wander by their front yard. But you already thought all of that
through, right?

The President of Iran speaks openly of destroying Israel,
they whole world knows that the USA has gone out of its way
to avoid death and war. The world also knows that we don't
fight war to take territory. Since Viet Nam, we don't fight
long wars.


"Taylor" wrote in message
...
|
| Jim Macklin wrote:
|
| Iran is run by lunatics and they are threatening to blow
up
| the world while they are actively enriching uranium ore.
| Why wait longer?
|
| "Taylor" wrote in message
| ...
| |
| |
| | Jim Macklin wrote:
| |
| | Would it be better to wait a few months or years for
the
| | religious fanatics to have a dozen or even hundred
| nuclear
| | weapons and the missiles needed to strike 1,000
miles or
| | more? Almost all of Europe would be targeted and
then
| the
| | world could have a two-sided nuclear war. France,
| Italy,
| | Germany, Russia, and Israel would all be attacked.
The
| USA
| | might be safe from direct missile attack, but if you
| know
| | what will happen, why wait for the final step?
| |
| | We can use conventional bombs, but we also need to
be
| sure
| | that the underground factories are destroyed and
they
| were
| | designed to be hardened, nukes will do the job.
| |
| | So what? Everytime someone else figures out how to
| construct a nuclear
| | bomb you attack them? Look it's not really
groundbreaking
| technology
| | anymore to make a fission bomb. The hardest part is
to
| enrich the
| | uranium (because it's a complicated process that
requires
| a lot of
| | advanced chemistry and centrifuge technology,, not to
| mention a lot of
| | uranium ore) or the other alternative is to use
plutonium
| (requires a
| | more complicated bomb design due to unwanted Pu-240),
or
| maybe even
| | thorium. Plutonium, as a Doc said, is a little harder
to
| come by if you
| | don't have your own reactor. But basically if you
have
| enough U-235,
| | all you need to do is construct a conventional
explosive
| device to smash
| | two sufficiently sized balls of uranium together, and
| presto! You have
| | an a-bomb. There's god-knows how much Soviet weapons
| grade material
| | that nobody knows what happened to floating around as
| well, so that
| | takes care of your enrichening problem.
| |
| | If you're going to attack everyone who figures this
out
| (no matter how
| | crazy they may want to be) you're going to be very
very
| busy for a long
| | time. And how do you know where all of these supposed
| factories are?
| | What do you do when they are beneath apartment
buildings
| or schools or
| | hospitals? And if you start bombing around, don't
forget
| to duck when
| | the mail comes in back home.
| |
| | One person's religious fanatic is another person's
leader.
|
| Someone else could argue that the USA is being run by
lunatics too,
| threatening to invade countries that pose no threat to
them. I missed
| where Iran where was threatening to blow up the world, or
how that would
| be in Iran's interest. Countries all over the world
enrich uranium, it
| is necessary for many types of power reactors, including
the types used
| in USA. If you start attacking any country that you don't
like because
| they are enriching uranium, where do you stop? Should we
attack France,
| Armenia, Russia, Pakistan, China, North Korea, Kazakhstan,
Cuba, etc.
| because they have nuclear programs? Start attacking Iran
and they may
| find it in their best interests to close the Straits of
Hormuz, or at
| least fire a missile at any oil tanker or navy ship that
happens to
| wander by their front yard. But you already thought all
of that
| through, right?
|

On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 23:49:11 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:

The world also knows that we don't
fight war to take territory.

... but to defend your very best interests.

Since Viet Nam, we don't fight
long wars.

since WWII there was no official war, you never declared war officialy
since then. Check where your troops have been since WWII .... :-/

#m
--
"We're out of toilet paper sir!"
http://www.webcrunchers.com/crunch/Play/history/stories/toilet.html

I know very well, probably protecting your butt.



--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
...
| On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 23:49:11 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
| wrote:
|
| The world also knows that we don't
| fight war to take territory.
|
| .. but to defend your very best interests.
|
| Since Viet Nam, we don't fight
| long wars.
|
| since WWII there was no official war, you never declared
war officialy
| since then. Check where your troops have been since WWII
..... :-/
|
| #m
| --
| "We're out of toilet paper sir!"
|
http://www.webcrunchers.com/crunch/Play/history/stories/toilet.html